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 Posted 03/22/2020  12:48 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add yooperbsn to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Found what I believe to be my first Chinese cash coin tonight on an old farmstead. Some googling led me to think that this coin is patterned from or is a 1661-1722 Kangxi Boo-chiowan 1 cash coin from the Qing Dynasty.

This said, I have a couple of questions: a) is my guess about this coin likely correct? B) how can one tell if this is a modern reproduction vs a "sat around in a barrel for centuries" original. C) am I correct in thinking that there is really no monetary value associated with these coins; especially with the wear and damage that this one exhibits? Full disclosure, I did edit the photo lighting a bit to bring out the details of the coin, if true color images are needed, I'll happily upload them. Thanks in advance!

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@yooper, yes I agree with your identification and am going to move this thread to the world coin section of CCF so that we can get some more eyes on it.
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Thanks Spence. I wasn't sure where to post it. Any idea regarding the authenticity of the coin or if it is a more modern reproduction?
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Looks genuine. No real value as they made millions of them.
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Thanks Bacchus2! Just to expand my limited knowledge base, what about this coin swayed you to lean genuine? I simply have no knowledge of how to discern between a real cash coin and a fake one. Thanks in advance!
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...what about this coin swayed you to lean genuine?


I can't speak for Bacchus, but I agree with his assessment. For me:

- The coin isn't an obvious, modern, "Feng Shui replica". Those tend to look like this one, with obvious evidence of machine-striking. For cash coins, you have to "unlearn what you have learned" about Western coinage: evidence of casting is good, evidence of being machine-struck is bad.

- The coin isn't a "Vietnamese fake". From the 1400s through to the 1700s, Vietnam went through several periods where the private production of coinage was tolerated (or the government was too weak to stop it), and these privately-made "trade copies" or pseudo-coins often copied Chinese coin types, both then-old and then-current. At the same time, Japanese merchants also mass-produced fake cash for use in trading with Vietnam. Such objects usually have a distinctive appearance, which this piece lacks. Notably, such pieces are often very thin and lightweight, incapable of casting a shadow like this coin does.

- This coin is nowhere near valuable enough for someone to produce a high-quality, realistic-looking fake. There simply isn't the demand or need for such things.
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