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Would You Spend $450 On This? 1919-S WLH

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The guy is an old timer and he's been doing this a while, he knows he's got something nice but is selling it locally, I've seen them going on ebay for a lot more in what looks like worse condition, would it be worth buying and grading? It's a 1919 S Walking Liberty half. Aren't the best pics but it's all I've got...please let me know some opinions asap. Thanks! He's asking $450 firm...
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 Posted 04/23/2020  1:28 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I certainly wouldn't buy from these pics.
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I can't evaluate this coin for you with those fuzzy photos , But reverse looks like it CAN be a high MS ?
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I AM able to meet the guy and see it in person first, before making a purchase, but the reverse is much clearer pic and looks phenomenal to me...? He said I wouldn't be disappointed but that seems like a lot of money and I'm fairly new at this, but a high MS would go for thousands...
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From the pictures provided the Mint mark looks suspect in the position it's in as do the branches above it compared to many others on PCGS website.
I hope it's real, and I wonder why someone would let a few thousand dollar coin go for a mere $450 unless they just don't know and did zero research before selling it.
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The more I look at that reverse ,the mint mark looks weird to me , shouldn't be that big and clear for that not so clear photo . But then again that would make the whole coin fake in reality because a 1919-D is more rarer and more valuable ,or just have no MM which is still worth thousands in MS or put a D on it . I hope you guys can understand what I'm trying to say . BTW, 1919-S Walker in MS-61 is valued at $4,260 according to the Numismedia fair market value price guide .
@op > check over that coin with a fine tooth comb .Bring a loupe , scale and magnet with you . If it's genuine , buy it and run ; Don't look back !
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Lol I do agree now that the points been made about the mint mark location and it does look like a stunning clear S. It looks to me to be in the same spot as the 1918 S Walker, wouldn't that be a find, 1919 with 1918 S reverse lol. I have my magnet and scale along with my scope but I'm very skeptical. Would love some more feedback.
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Somethings wrong here. Now would anyone that has been around a long time be willing to sell any coin to anyone for a fraction of it's value. Last time I saw something like this it turned out to be a fake. Selling locally is easier than on places like ebay or a coin show where the police could be involved. If real, why would he want to just sell off a valuable coin for so much less than he could get even at a coin store. Some thing is just not right here.
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The coin is to good to be true. A 2K+ coin offered for $450. The coin appears to be a counterfeit with the mint mark in the wrong position. Pass.
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Mint mark is off
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***UPDATE***
I asked for more pics via email and got blocked on this certain site by the seller. I used another email to talk to him and went to check it out, first thing, scales and DING DING DING we have a counterfeit, 11.5g under by 1g and to be in such good condition theirs no way lol. He was shady, firm on $450 until I left and said no thanks and he said $350 real quick. The Maker's Mark was an awful upward facing blob and here is a pic of the "mint mark" thanks everybody!
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This is my 1919 s to compare the mint mark

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Astounding that counterfeiters go to all that work, and then botch something so simple and obvious as placement of a mint mark, or fonts on the dates or some such.

Also astounding that an "old timer" would stoop this low. Wish we could hear more on that story.
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You gotta laugh ; That is the sickest looking S mint mark I've ever seen .
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Wow, glad you sidestepped this coin. Mint Mark is a complete laugh.
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