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1993 Penny Multi Struck Coin With Lots Of Die Chips And Die Crack?

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 Posted 05/04/2020  11:33 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add SeanGon to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Hey I just got this one in my change and was wondering what you all thought? All of the crack amd lines are raised I'm pretty sure not like a cut per say and some of the lettering appears doubled. Anyhow what do you all think?
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 Posted 05/04/2020  11:44 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SamCoin to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Just a damaged penny, not multistruck.
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That sucks the rounded part is exactly the same diameter and shape as a penny I put it in the half circle dent on the coin and it fits perfect and there are lots of die cracks and die chips and the coin is bent slightly to the shape of another penny exactly where the half circles really weird that it would just be a damaged penny there aren't any rough edges it's all smooth and perfect if you will as if another penny went over the top of it twice. My new scope should be here today and I'll post better pictures. The doubling on the pillars and the outside edges of the reverse definitely aren't just PMD the doubling on the reverse and some of the other lettering is prob Die Deterioration but that's weird in itself because the coin is in great shape amd there isn't any trail dies. Anyhow thanks for the input I'll post better pictures soon and may still send it out to Wexler again lol
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One more thing where would the cracks come from other than stress from a possibly being struck twice the crack are right within and only where the half circles are ? Just trying to learn
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I'm sure the marks are from a penny, sean. Usually these coins are made when people either stick two pennies in a vice and squeeze them together, or put two pennies on top of each other and hit them with a hammer. If it had been made by an out of collar double strike, it would look very different though. Just look up "double strike penny" to see what the error actually looks like. Not sure how the cracks formed in terms of the physics of it, but I can almost guarantee it was caused by the same damage inflicted on the coin that left the imprint, and I can 100% guarantee it isn't a mint error.
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I'll re read about that stuff I have the pages saved and I just tried the vice thing and with a hammer and it left impressions from the design and I dont see that here but either way this is a good way for me to investigate and learn thanks again
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Are split plate doubled coins worth anything I have a few of those I thought it was just Die Deterioration on the tops of the letters...man this reading thing is usefull lol
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My brain feels like it's going to explode lol information overload. BUT it was informative, I did find "Incomplete punch or Planchet errors" of which also makes the same exact thing this penny has (not saying that's what mine is just saying it looks the same) anyhow I'll leave you be I'm sure I'm not the only idiot lol that you have to help poi t in the right direction and I've taken up enough of your time. thanks again for pointing me in the right direction. I really really not only respect and admire those of you that take the time to share your knowledge and help us newbies learn. Sometime soon I'll make yall proud lol
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Too many photos,one full coin pic of obverse and one full coin pic of reverse and one or two close ups if needed. Your coin is PMD and a spender.
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Too many photos,one full coin pic of obverse and one full coin pic of reverse and one or two close ups if needed.


I agree.
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That sucks the rounded part is exactly the same diameter and shape as a penny I put it in the half circle dent on the coin and it fits perfect and there are lots of die cracks and die chips and the coin is bent slightly to the shape of another penny exactly where the half circles really weird that it would just be a damaged penny there aren't any rough edges it's all smooth and perfect if you will as if another penny went over the top of it twice.



A penny did go over the top of this one twice...but not at the mint.

Take two pennies in good condition. Lay one onto a piece of wood. Put the other penny on top of the other in the same position as the "circle" is on the one you are asking about. Hit the top one with a hammer. reposition the top penny and do it again. Hitting too hard will make a totally different look. Hitting too light will make a different look. When you find the right random amount of power to hit the top one with, you will find the random amount of force used by the person who created your coin's damage.

Also note that if you hit the top coin nearer its edge, you can produce a bend as well.

Note your damaged coin only has a dent in the rim areas the curves intersect. The mint's presses obviously hit with enough power that they would not just dent the rim, they would flatten that area all the way from inside the rim where the design is to the outer edge of the raised rim.

This has to be PMD.

The raised areas you mention seem to be what happens a lot of with zinc core cents. The plating was not perfect and/or the core is starting to deteriorate which will make raised areas. Sometime you can find areas even looking like the a "burst bubble" on one of these Zincolns.


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