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1983 LMC Extra Partial E On Rim Of We On Obverse

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 Posted 05/14/2020  4:00 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It may have fallen into the gutter area that forms the rim of the coin. That area creates the rim.
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Note the one designated 1. When that area chips off the die, it creates rim Cuds. So it may have fallen into that area of the coin pre strike?
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The explanation on the possibilities are all logical, but the window of questions on the exact cause still remains open, we would still need to see the reverse image of that area, but OP has been MIA on this request and not responding IMO that would help to conclude this story of guessing game!.
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The E on the 1983 cent is almost certainly a contact mark from another cent. Furthermore, the B on Bob Piazza's cent that Coop has chosen to illustrate the concept of the dropped letter is also probably a contact mark. The fact that it's restricted to the highest point on the head and that it disappears just as it meets a lower-relief area is a warning sign. A genuine dropped letter (or any dropped filling) will not respect the boundaries of the design or strengthen and weaken in sync with topographical changes.
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A genuine dropped letter (or any dropped filling) will not respect the boundaries of the design or strengthen and weaken in sync with topographical changes.


Thank you mikediamond for clarifying.
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sorry I took so long but I'm more curious about the incused letter E
heres the reverse image, no noticeable damage
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t may have fallen into the gutter area that forms the rim of the coin. That area creates the rim.

If it had been a dropped letter that had fallen in the "gutter" of the die, in order to have the back of the E where it is the arms of the E would have had to have been leaning up against the die pointing up toward the field. When the planchet metal came down into the gutter it would have either mangled the dropped letter or shown as three voids in the rim leading to the back of the letter.
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