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1983 LMC Extra Partial E On Rim Of We On Obverse

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It looks like some sort of error. If not, it was put there by someone else.
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LOL..I think that person had a lot of free time hehe
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Well is the E raised? I can't really tell from these photos, but I think it isn't raised.

Meaning, just damage and nothing else.
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Looks raised to me.
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its not raised..must be a damaged coin thanks everyone for the help
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I'm not very good at identifying atypical clashes, but perhaps a dropped letter?
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It looks like an impression from another coin squeezed onto this one.can you post a picture of the reverse from the opposite side of that partial E.
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I'm leaving towards a dropped letter. If it were from another coin, it would be mirrored. Also a dropped letter could be mirrored or normal like this coin. It depends on how it fell onto the planchet.
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the impression on this coin is mirrored.East corner of the letter on the Rim matches the South corner of the actual letter E , I think we need to see the reverse image for final assessment don't you?
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Because of how deep the E on the rim is, if it were PSD from another coin there would be incuse
damage on this rim from where the other coin rim crossed.

IMHO it seems like a dropped letter to me also.

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I see that now. But a dropped letter could be either side of the dropped letter.. They are formed mirrored on the die, dropped and struck onto the coin depending on how it flipped. I still find it interesting. Seems like if this were PSD, from another coin, we would see other devices or surface damage on the coin. So I don't feel it's damaged. I noticed the shape on the lower left edge of the 'E' on the bottom as a raised area on that device. That was the game changer for me. Thanks Chase.
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Thank you coop for making it a logical and understanding explanation, what you are proposing make's sense.
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Interesting find. If no pressure is applied to the rim in the minting process, how is this possible unless it is PSD?
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I lean towards a dropped letter as well, it's very prominent and not mirrored as coop said. I think it's a dropped letter, in which case it's be a stellar find!
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If it was a dropped letter, why is there no trace of it in the field? If this was a dropped letter laying on the planchet pre-strike, in the position such that the back of the letter would be formed into the rim, the arms of the E would have extended into the field. They been pressed into the planchet by the field of the die before the back of the E was impressed into the rim. So where is the rest of the E?

On the other hand if the E was pressed in post strike, the rim being the highest point could very conceivably show the back of an E with nothing showing in the field.
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