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Hello Friends, Found this interesting 1830 Large Cent which appears to be a medium letters variety with the popular tip of the leaves below S reverse. I was not able to match this variety with any documented newcomb die marriages. Please look at the pictures and help. Appreciate all your inputs!   |
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I'm not convinced about authenticity.
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I took a quick look and couldn't come up with a variety match.
Might be worth contacting EAC.
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05/14/2020 10:42 pm
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And  to CCF. John1  |
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Welcome aboard!
See if you can get a copy of Bob Grellman's book on Large Cent die varieties. That would be helpful in your research.
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Grellman's book won't help, it covers 1840 - 57.
It is a very interesting piece. Jack Young might like to see it. Haven't been able to track down what was used for the obv yet, but the reverse is 1833 N-3. I suspect this is another case where they have used a coin to create an obv hub and grind the date off to make dateless obv dies that they can put whatever date they want on them. The date on this one seems "off". I think what is going to be the key for identifying the obv will be what appears to be a faint crack from the rim just past the points of star 4 toward the nose.
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Pillar of the Community
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Conder101 is correct. My Bad! Sorry for the incorrect information.
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The date on this one seems "off". I think the date is what made me suspicious of this coin. I compared it to several genuine 1830 obverse dies, and the numbers of the date seem too rounded on the OP coin (the first one). It's odd, because the rest of the coin looks okay to me.  |
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Dear Friends, Thank you so much for a Warm welcome and all your inputs. I agree the date points to a probable fake... For a moment I thought I got a N-9 or a Medium letter variety :-)
Thanks Again!
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This type has been around for probably close to 10 years now. Aside from keying in on diagnostic markers and incorrect design elements, as noted above... get yourself to a place where you see instantly see that the "look" (while overall pretty decently accurate) is not quite what it should be.
Conder101, it's indeed that same 1833 base model (save for the amended date) as all the others. As noted, certainly think Jack Young would like the picture for his files... he does good sleuthing.
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Star #10 is touching the hair, so also another area that's "not quite right for me." Though I still have a lot to learn on EAC coins, I've only been studying them for a few years now. A Newman Portal link to John Wright's great book on Middle dates "The Cent Book" https://nnp.wustl.edu/library/book/530759 There you can grab a PDF of it. Jack Young is also a member here at CCF. "Buy the Book Before You Buy the Coin" - Aaron R. Feldman - "And read it" - Me 2013! ANA Life Member #3288 in good standing since 1981, ANS, Early American Coppers Member (EAC), Colonial Coin Collectors Club member (C4), Conder Token Collector Club member (CTCC), Civil War Token Society (CWTS) member, Liberty Seated Collectors Club (LSCC) & Numismatic Bibliomania Society member (NBS), USMex, Member in good standing, 2¢ variety collector. See my want page: http://goccf.com/t/140440 |
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