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1962-D Penny Feedback - Post Mint Mark Or Error

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I am rather new to coin collecting so have become confused on Die Deterioration or double die. I have read the the post and topics but it's hard for me to determine. I want this to be an error but think it is probably Die Deterioration. Any feedback would be greatly appreciated. Thank you.

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Well you are seeing a die chip. As the die ages if a piece breaks off the die, there will be a void there. When the coin is struck the void is filled if the top is rough, that is how much chipped off the die. If the top is flat, a larger void happen on the die and there was not enough planchet material to fill that void.

This would be called die wear as it is not a single squeeze die. These dies are mostly the zincolns that will have Die Deterioration. The difference? The lower profile affects the fields and not the devices.
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On the older style dies, the die wear will show on the outside edges of the devices and they devices will move towards the rims.
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The die wear affects the outside edge first, then the devices start to distort in the later die states:
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Now you have more information to add to your coin collector brain side.
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 Posted 05/14/2020  11:21 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Chipher10 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
oh, it's not Die Deterioration. That's good news :) thank you.
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If you had said die wear, then the term applies to both die creation processes. But I consider them different when you mention deterioration as I apply that to the single squeeze process. (that applies to all of the single squeeze dies on all denominations of single squeeze die.
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to CCF. The die chip in Liberty falls into the catagory of a BIE error. Type BIE in the search box,upper left of page for more info.
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@chipher, first welcome to CCF. Second, that is a nice BIE die chip that you have found.
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Dr. coop calls it.



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 Posted 05/16/2020  9:32 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Chipher10 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Again, thank you to for the replies and welcomes. I looked in another forum on grading and saw a post of the same year coin as mine but without the error. My coin seems to be in as good of shape, possibly better than the coin I saw. So now I'm curious if my coin is worth grading.
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A bu coin in a shop sells for aprox 25 cents. The grading fees are $20-$50. Is it worth it to have a coin graded that you could loose big on? Note the examples below and check their recommended prices?
High grade coins are worth big bucks:
MS-68
https://www.PCGS.com/cert/82915463
MS-67
https://www.PCGS.com/cert/36187135
MS-66:
https://www.PCGS.com/cert/29709724
MS-65
https://www.PCGS.com/cert/26141214
MS-64:
https://www.PCGS.com/cert/38611690
Lower grade coins will bleed you dry. So unless you have a coin that looks super spectacular, I'd save my money. They get people to fall for this all the time. Note other coins that some have graded that are worth less and they don't show a price. Still cost them full amount to have them graded.
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I don't see yours listed but here is some information on "BIE" cents and a bunch of examples http://cuds-on-coins.com/lincoln-cent-bies/
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