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New Member
Australia
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Bedrock of the Community
Australia
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Cartwheel Penny should weigh 28.35 grams, the Twopenny twice that.
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Pillar of the Community
Australia
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might want to ask the Brits in the forum if they can tell if counterfeit, there is a UK section under the world section.
As far as I can tell probably good, however ive never held one in hand mostly just pictures. heard they can be very common in low ding up condition however in very good grades XF+ they can be extremely hard to find.
Edited by ryurazu 05/21/2020 05:32 am
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Pillar of the Community
Australia
1365 Posts |
I feel that the anomalies in the lettering on both coins are a cause for concern! 
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
5253 Posts |
Comparing that to both a 2 pence and 1 pence I have, I don't notice any obvious differences.
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Valued Member
United States
324 Posts |
their condition isn't really that great, nothing jumps out saying fake.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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No red flags, they look genuine to me.
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Bedrock of the Community
United Kingdom
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Quote: No red flags, they look genuine to me. 
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Pillar of the Community
United States
992 Posts |
Based on my very limited knowledge of these, I'd say they look ok to me.
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New Member
 Australia
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Thanks everyone, the weight checks out, both come up at 57g so that's a good start.
As far as condition I really struggle at grading coins, but again, that's an indication they're real as the old man wouldn't have spent big dollars acquiring them.
I will see if I can get some more info from the British coin forum.
Cheers.
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Pillar of the Community
United Kingdom
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Pillar of the Community
United Kingdom
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They look perfectly genuine to me, and twopences rather than pennies at 57g each. They are surprisingly common in the UK - they were only made for one year and a lot were put aside as souvenirs or for use as weights (exactly 2 ounces). The penny is actually scarcer in good condition as that circulated until 1860 and so got a lot more wear. Yours are fairly typical above average condition. They do turn up much more worn or with massive bruises on the edges. (Being copper and heavy they damage easily when dropped.) In the UK I would expect to pick them up for £5 to £10. Here is mine for comparison:  
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Pillar of the Community
Australia
1365 Posts |
Being an Aussie I'm am by no means an expert when it comes to your cartwheel pennies but I am surprised as I've never seen them before such undefined lettering e.g. 
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Valued Member
United Kingdom
190 Posts |
Yes they are Twopences and real.An easy indicator to tell from a picture is on the Twopence the middle trident prong points to the N and on the penny to a gap.
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Valued Member
Canada
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I cant tell 100% from your pictures but the S does look a little strange to me as well.
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Pillar of the Community
United Kingdom
735 Posts |
Ignore these doubts, they're genuine. You don't get digs and verdigris on coins struck yesterday. Any Brit collector can spot faked cartwheels at 100 paces.
Edited by Hogarth 05/26/2020 03:47 am
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