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Haven't had any time to post anything so figured to toss this one out for some pondering. Certainly has all the characteristics of a vise job, with the letters being incuse and reversed plus the coin shows a bit of bending. But must have been a pretty enthusiastic effort to get just those 4 letters on there and nothing else. Anyway, sure caught my eye when I first saw it but pretty sure goes in the counterfeit files not the error files. 1940 Lincoln Wheat cent - reversed incuse letters on reverse     |
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Definitely seems like a well made counterfeit in my opinion.
Great find! Nice to see another post of yours as well. Hope you aren't being kept TOO busy.
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Bedrock of the Community
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If it was indeed a vise job, it was a poor effort, if it was somehow a counterfeit, why bother? I'm guessing it was a strange die clash, but that's all it is, a guess.
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If they were trying to convince someone that it was an error, yes a poor job I agree. But when it comes to mimicking the actual letters on the obverse, at least for those 4 letters, decently successful.
Good question why someone would make this. Maybe they got bored who knows.
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Pillar of the Community
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The coin could have gotten heated really hot and smushed against another penny like in a high temp dryer
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Bedrock of the Community
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Bedrock of the Community
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PSD for sure. The reversed incuse letters are a dead giveaway.
Errers and Varietys.
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Bedrock of the Community
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Soft die, but the devices would be normal on that. A cut coin piece that was squeezed there?
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Bedrock of the Community
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Cut coin is what I am wondering too. Otherwise I don't see how you could get those letter in the field, in a protected area, without leaving traces elsewhere and on the raised portions. A dropped multiple could do it, but if so I would expect to see traces of the surrounding dropped field area as well.
Of course with a cut coin you would still have to be careful not to show the edges of the cut piece.
Edited by Conder101
06/05/2020 8:21 pm
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Bedrock of the Community
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The weight should be normal.
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Bedrock of the Community
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Think wood shop, spring of '43, Elkhart Indiana. Add a couple young teenagers, some tools, and voila!
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Thanks for the comments! I thought about a modified coin to remove the rim and whatnot to just get those letters in there, as how else would you do it? A multiple dropped letter option was also a thought, but I've heard Mike note a couple times that the letters generally don't fade to one side like the backwards "WE" does. So still think it's a clever vise job using a modified coin somehow.
Coop, yes, the weight is normal at 3.10g.
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This is a vise job of some kind. These might be contact marks from the struck tab of an off-center cent that lacked the design rim in this area. Or, as tropicalbats suggested, these may be contact marks from a cut-down cent. If this was a large, multi-element dropped filling, the incuse letters would be surrounded by a slightly depressed area produced by the thin layer of "grease" that connected the letters.
Error coin writer and researcher.
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Thanks Mike! I think instead of filing it in the folder o' fakes I'll label it as post strike contact marks. Maybe it was intentional, maybe not, so will just use your terminology of contact marks and leave it at that.
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