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I Might Have Found A 1969-S LMC DDO-001

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I know this coin is in really bad shape.... but I think it might be a doubled die..

The coin was very dirty... it was actually solid black. so I carefully used soap and warm water on it. It looks like it has had some kind of acid on it. But even with it being this damaged, it would still be cool if it was a DDO.


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Sorry, Looks like a spender to me.
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Not seeing any tell-tale signs of the classic '69 S DDO.
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Note the red arrows on this image:
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Those are the areas to look for doubling. In order for it to be DDO-001, all doubling must match. Your coin is probably a machine doubled example. It has fooled many. over 130 examples of Machine Doubling was submitted to PCGS and all got a normal coin grade, because MD does not make a coin a doubled die. Even most of the real DDO-001 have Machine Doubling:
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Note on these 4 examples. The date is plainly a DDO. But look at the yellow arrows. Those are point towards Machine Doubling on these coins. So Machine Doubling can happen to doubled dies and normal strike dies. But it is the doubling on the die, that makes a doubled die a valuable coin. Machine Doubling was very common on the 1968-1972 cents. (Don't feel alone, we get this many times a week, people thinking they found the holy grail)
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Never NEVER clean coins. Never.
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I couldnt even make out any of the lettering on the coins because of all the dirt. Plus they were already damaged from some type of acid. There are little holes all in the coins. I figured soap and water wouldn't hurt.
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Get some Acetone Cleaner from a hardware store and ya can soak um for a couple days to get some crud off, but soap cleaning will show and no one wants cleaned coins that are discolored from cleaning its a BIG NO NO.
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If it was the DDO-001 you would have devalued the coin dramatically by cleaning it. However, it is not the DDO-001. Keep hunting!

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dbeck22 wrote:

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I figured soap and water wouldn't hurt.

You figured wrong. Soap has chemicals that strip patina from the coin to start with, plus abrasives that will disfigure your coin.

Never NEVER ever NEVER clean your coins, regardless what you might figure. Just say no!


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If it looks bad, go on to the next coin. Who would buy a bad looking coin? Not me!
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If it was the DDO-001 you would have devalued the coin dramatically by cleaning it.

How much is a 69 S DDO-1 worth that is covered with so much black gunk that you can't tell it's a DDO? 1 cent.
How much is a cleaned 69 S DDO-1 worth? A lot more than 1 cent.


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Who would buy a bad looking coin? Not me!

Depends on the coin. Say this HAD been a 69 S DDO-1, are you saying there wouldn't be anyone out there willing to buy it at a discounted price? Nice ones go for $10 - $20K, you would pass on a genuine one like this for say $500? Everything has a value.
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Not a DDO. And, what Conder said.
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