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My acquisition at CoinFest and this will go into my 7070. I have the dealer grade and would like your opinion as well. Reverse is darker than the obverse.  Thanks! |
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I really have little experience with these, but I would say VF 30.
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Hi Shatsi,
I think this coin is close to an AU grade. You always have to be suspicious about surfaces on early copper since so many have been cleaned, altered, or damaged. The dark photos might hide some surface issues and I can't tell whether there might be a slight granular character to the obverse. The rims look pretty good except for a small rim bump at about 5:00 on the obverse. I don't know whether that is serious enough to be called "damage" by the grading services. It looks minor to me.
I guess it all boils down to originality. If the surfaces are smooth (not granular), corrosion-free, and uncleaned, I'd say you picked a winner.
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Jaobler- really, an AU?! wow, I'm really off in my grading of these early US coins. |
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I was going to say XF-45. A bit more wear than my Half Cent which I think grades AU 55 at least, but still really nice. |
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I think there's not quite enough hair and leaf ribbing details for EF.
I'd say a strong VF-35.
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My fuzzy photos don't do it justice, but here's my 1803 which I won from a Heritage auction. They graded the raw coin as AU-50. I submitted it to PCGS and they slabbed it as AU-50. Note the blunt look of the centers of the leaves. Lack of detail here won't always mean that the coin has a lot of wear. I think Shatsi's cent has nearly as much detail as my coin. I would however like to see brighter photos. Dark color and dark exposures can hide a lot of surface problems.   |
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Sorry for the delay in replying. Here's picture with more lighting.  Dealer graded it as VF-25. I didn't see any problems on the surface. I thought it would grade higher but I have no experience in this series so I basically went for the eye appeal. Do you think the rim bump at 3 o'clock would be considered damage? Edited by shatsi
11/17/2008 6:30 pm
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If that's wear on the leaves, I'd go with VF-35, if it's a weak strike, I'll stick with XF-45.
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The dealer was being conservative but was about right on IMO. I'd call this one a VF30. Nice!
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Dave is correct...VF-30 ; IMHO there appears to be slight corrosion
with roughened lettering and rims...overall a nice type coin!
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Could you please point out the area you see corrosion?
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Dealer graded it as VF-25. I thought it would grade higher but I have no experience in this series so I basically went for the eye appeal Was the seller an EAC dealer perhaps? Early American Copper aficionados rely on the old-school original Sheldon grading scale and it tends to be harsh. Any little scratch, ding, or porous spot results in a downgrade so it varies quite a bit from commercial grading- eye appeal plays a solid part(EAC guys, correct me if I am off in my thinking). I do not think that the rim bump would get a bodybag but EAC grading might downgrade it by 5 points for that. It is a delicious piece of chocolate copper  |
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I am going to say XF-45 also, the one I have in my 7070 was graded by PCGS as AU-58 and this one doesn't look to far off from that to me (even though mine is a different date, but I don't guess that would really matter)
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Shatsi..appears around date,back of hair ribbon and notch of Y on obverse
on rev around fraction and base of some leaves....it seems to be minimal
and not damaging surface other than discoloration at this point.
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That's a very nice 1805 by my book!  The bumps seem very minimal for a coin of this period. It appears to be a Sheldon-269, R1. |
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Posted 11/13/2008 1:23 pm
