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Islamic Ae Coins? Help To Id, Please?

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 Posted 06/25/2020  09:30 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Aflcoins to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Hi dear friends,
i m new here, so I would like request help to ID 2 AE coins, can be Islamic, sizes 16 and 19mm, I m not expert in Islamic coins, so I need some help, please?

Thank you so mucho for your help.
Best regards
Alex

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 Posted 06/25/2020  11:09 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Gincoin43 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I think the second is an Umayyad Caliphate fals
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 Posted 06/25/2020  12:20 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Aflcoins to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The second coin can be this one ?

https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=1412132

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 Posted 06/25/2020  12:26 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Aflcoins to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
or this one:

https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=3279611


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Any idea for the first coin?
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 Posted 06/25/2020  12:42 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Gincoin43 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I don't think so. The lettering on the obverse and reverse are near the same size on that one, the obverse lettering is much larger on yours. There are a couple members who are very good with Arabic/Islamic coins who will probably be able to pin it down for you when they see this post.

On side note I think that first one might be a jital
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 Posted 06/26/2020  04:52 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Aflcoins to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
any expert to help me?
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Both coins are Umayyad(-ish), The first coin is very unusual, combining the jerboa obverse of the Hims mint in Syria with a reverse of Misr (Egypt). Although the types are Umayyad, most likely it is a cast imitation dating from the early 'Abbasid period.

The second coin is generally similar to examples already posted but the mint, which would be in the reverse margin, is missing. Of the margin inscription, only the words "was struck this fals" are visible.
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and is possibel ID same date, or rule?
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The fisrt is very similar reverse like this one, can be?

'Abd al-Malik b. Marwan, finance director, 749-750, AE fals (4.17g), Atrib, A-152, W-ANS.37, also citing the last Umayyad caliph Marwan, superb strike, lovely patination, extremely rare Egyptian mint, known as Athribis in ancient Greek, choice VF, RRR
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and second can be?

UMAYYAD: Anonymous, ca. 735-745, AE fals (3.52g), Madinat Ma'dan Amir al-Mu'minin, ND, A-A183, W-349, F-VF, RR. The mint was probably located at or near al-Rusafa in eastern Syria, where the Umayyad caliphs maintained an important palace. Coins of this mint are of the eastern Syrian style, and have mainly been found in the region around Rusafa (now called Resafa, about 30 miles southwest of Raqqa).
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Yes, the reverse of the 1st coin is similar, with the name of the province, "Misr" (Egypt), written across the field. The obverse is from Hims in Syria and depicts a jerboa facing right.
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There are many coins from many mints of similar type to the 2nd coin. Unfortunately, the mint name is missing. A specific attribution is not possible.
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