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Edited by Nelrak
11/14/2008 01:20 am
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I think it is still there and that the plastic holding it prevents you from seeing the diffraction colors. It is the same when I look at one of my toned coins under the stereoscope, the toning disappears or lessens a lot.
Jim
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V-E-R-Y Strange.
But, perhaps Jim is correct, altho I can't see how the plastic could change the color.
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I agree. The plastic alters the direction of the light, de-empasizing the toning. Toning shows best with strong side lighting. Even the plastic in a cardboard flip will make a toned coin look dull.
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I've cracked out many toned coins from holders and there wasn't that much difference from the toning while slabbed or after cracked out. On this dime, there is about a 75% reduction on the toning and 75% increase in brilliance, almost like it has been dipped or something. Don't get me wrong it's a really beautiful coin in it's present state but it's not what I expected when I got it back. I almost thought I had a switcheroo but it is the same coin.
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I seriously doubt that PCGS would alter a coin in any way. Why don't you call them and talk to them about your concerns. If you do let us know what they said.
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Hey, at least it made it into plastic and didn't get body bagged for AT.
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Why don't you call them and talk to them about your concerns. I can imagine how that conversation would go: Me: Hey my toned Dime barely has toning after I sent it to you guys to grade. Them: It's exactly as you sent it to use be happy it didn't get BB Me: OK.  |
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I seriously doubt that PCGS would alter a coin in any way. No, they have been known to dip submitted coins, though usually they ask first. And they deny they they do it. |
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Conder, surely you are kidding me? They dip submitted coins? How can that be when they are supposed to body bag a dipped coin? If true they will never receive another coin from me. Nelrak, I am sorry that your coin looks different. I was trying to suggest something to help, but you are probably right it would be useless. My condolances.
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No, they have been known to dip submitted coins, though usually they ask first. And they deny they they do it. Holy ... Man, that's just not right! Unbelievable! |
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I guess it's dip it and get slabbed or not get dipped and get BB. It kind of ruined my experience with submitting if they aren't going to be the way I want to have it preserved.
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How can that be when they are supposed to body bag a dipped coin? They slab dipped coins all the time, so does NGC. Why do you think that there are so many 100+ year old white coins residing in slabs? The difference is whether someone does a good job of dipping with no leftover evidence other than lustrous untoned surfaces(slabbed) or someone does a bad job, leaving dip residue on the coin and stripping off the luster(bodybag). The problem is too few people have actually mastered the skills necessary to properly dip a coin without being detrimental, most just wind up ruining the coins they attempt  I cannot really comment on why a grader would dip or how often they do it to submissions(I have no clue) but it is a dirty little "secret" that they do it. BTW Nelrak, I prefer the original look of your coin  Edited by biokemist6
11/14/2008 3:19 pm
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Dont mean to interupt , I think it looks better , why is toning so desirable ?
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What a travesty, it looked better originally. I'd post this thread on the PCGS and NGC boards. Yes, PCGS does dip coins, but I thought they would ask first.
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wetglaswegian
Just because it is more attractive!
(well, to some of us anyway. Many others prefer white.
I love that color.)
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Posted 11/14/2008 06:28 am
