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1974 5 Kurus Turkey - Unknown Term.

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Well this is a new one. I have a 1974 5 Kurus coin. Numista lists a variety as unconiferous. This doesn't even seem to be a word. Assuming it is referring to the group of plants known as conifers (pines) then given that the plant on this series is an Angiosperm (flowering plant) and not a conifer then technically all the coins in the series are "unconiferous".
Maybe it is an obscure numismatic term?
Googling has failed to deliver any answers.
Once again, no supporting images. Any help appreciated.
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I researched the type and I believe I know what it's talking about. There are two varities - one with acorns and one without. "Coniferous" means "related to plants", so many "unconiferous" means "without plants" (in this case no acorns). This is just a theory, I'm not exactly sure
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I agree with ksam
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Nice work @ksam. I agree with you would only add that the term "unconiferous" seems likely to be an English-as-a-second-language term.
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@ksammut

Thanks for clarifying it.

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There are two varities - one with acorns and one without

You summed up the differences very succinctly.
Assuming your logic on the use of "unconiferous" is correct, it's akin to saying "unmotorbike" means the car on the coin has no wheels. I believe you are correct but it is the most warped logic and use of a non-word that I've ever come across!
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@Spence - you may be right re ESL.

Should I (can I) edit the entry in Numista to help others? As a noob I have shied away from this on several occasions but leaving it the way it is just means others will go through the same hoops I did.
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@David Graham - I'm glad I could help. Sorry I made it kinda confusing haha
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@David Graham, yes please edit if you can. I find that it is often hard to find out how to identify the varieties listed in catalogs.

Perhaps the word should have been "unacorniferous"?
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Oaks have nothing to do with conifers!

When you edit, please just suggest "missing acorns."
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Numista is a French website, with primarily European contributors, so its English-language pages are bound to have some odd translation issues - especially if they've made the English page by ramming the French page through translation software.
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Have made a suggested edit to change to "without acorns". I noticed on the edit page that there was the term "sans glands". I suspect that Sap is right and that online translation has produced this new and confusing word "unconiferous".
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