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Post Mint Damage On A 1967 Dime?

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 Posted 11/20/2008  04:10 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add junjiesalvador to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Hello. What's with the 7 in this Roosevelt dime, is it post mint damage or 7 over what? Your inputs would be a great help. Thanks

junjie




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 Posted 11/20/2008  06:46 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coppercoins to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Yes, it's damaged. Probably from a counting machine.
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 Posted 11/20/2008  07:37 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add TreasHunt to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
yup, post mint, as Coppercoins stated.
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 Posted 11/20/2008  08:00 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Jamez to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Yep, damage. I agree, rolling machine got to it.
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 Posted 11/20/2008  9:17 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add junjiesalvador to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you for you inputs coppercoins, TreasHunt and Jamez.

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I believe as mentioned above this to be post minting damage, note the apparent rust marks on the 7 and slightly on the other numbers.I do not think this is from a counter as I do not believe a counter would "flatten" the #7 as it is, this would take an immense amount of pressure, I could be wrong, also do you think you could get another close up of the right side of the 7, it appears to possibly be dbl'd, again, I could be wrong, just my opinion...
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 Posted 11/21/2008  01:37 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add foundinrolls to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I also think it was a coin counting or rolling machine. Note the circular scratch on the neck as well as the circular damage on the 7 and the W of WE.

Thanks,
Bill
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 Posted 11/21/2008  10:28 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add junjiesalvador to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Here is another picture of the 7. Morgans dad I don't see any doubling on the right side. However, the bottom of the 7 looks like it is short and not aligned with the bottom of the 6. Also, if the 7 has been flattened the surface should be a little smooth and won't have the same texture as the neighboring 6, dont you think so?

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JUNJIE, I see the very bottom of the 7 flattened and the vertical part of the 7 on the left side has what appears to be a " Cud or blob" of metal ?. I still think this damage took alot of force to do, I might be wrong.It also appears that at the very bottom of the 7 is a portion of the number slightly visable, why I am not sure,do you see what I mean?
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 Posted 11/21/2008  11:17 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add foundinrolls to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hi,

This coin is exactly like the 1941 cents with slanted ones or the 1940 cents with a slash through the zero.

The 7 is damaged and the WE is damaged by a counting or rolling machine. There is nothing more complicated than that.

It's not an issue of pressure, it's an issue of a scraping done to the surface of the coin. You can do that kind of damage with a screw driver with a scraping motion.

Thanks,
Bill
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11/21/2008 11:20 pm
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 Posted 11/22/2008  02:51 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add junjiesalvador to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hi all. Well morgans dad, I believe Bill is right. Those lines under the 7 that goes all the way must have come from a rolling or counting machine. Thanks for the feedbacks guys. I'll keep the coin for future reference.

junjie

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 Posted 11/22/2008  03:30 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add junjiesalvador to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hey Bill, here's a picture of the W on WE. It is certainly slashed. I have learned a very important lesson from you. All the time my focus was only on the date without reference to the other parts of the coin. The W really supported your observation. Thanks

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 Posted 11/22/2008  10:07 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coppercoins to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
That is an important lesson, and one that others here should learn from.
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 Posted 11/23/2008  12:36 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add foundinrolls to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Chuck was the first to point out what it was. I merely observed the same thing.

If in the overall scheme of things, if we can teach people to look at all the pieces, when viewing a coin and not just the isolated letter or number, we did our jobs as numismatists. It is when looking at the entire coin that we can put the pieces together to decide if a coin is truly more than damage.

junjie, I think you are going to do very well!

Have Fun,
Bill
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 Posted 11/23/2008  02:29 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add junjiesalvador to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks guys, that is one valuable lesson I'll keep in mind.

junjie
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