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1922 No D Strong Reverse Lincoln Wheat Cent - Tooled-Au Details

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I bought this recently from a dealer who didn't want to deal with it. The slab is so scratched up that the coin is practically impossible to photograph well at all. So asking for advice on what best to do with it. I will need to get it in a new holder anyway, but would be nice to get that "tooled" off of there. Only thing I can see wrong with it is a gouge on the cheek, not some re-engraving kind of thing.

Any ideas?

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Seems like the logical thing to do is break it out and resubmit it (if you want/need it stabbed).

I don't see any "tooling" either. This is a great coin any collector would be proud to have! Great example!
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TB: Tooled around the eye and on the forehead by the hairline Did you look at the coin on PCGS ? Have a look. Click the pictures to the left to make it large and you get a better look at the coin, not sure but that would be my guess. https://www.PCGS.com/cert/39692491
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IMO it looks like there was corrosion that was removed, then metal was moved to smooth the porosity.
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It's too bad that the holder is so scratched up...makes it difficult to see some of the tells. Any chance you can take a little better pic of "trust"? That's one of the tells...but I'm not even sure of that...because they do have it slabbed as Genuine...? Must be something on there that someone previously smoothed out or etched to enhance it. What a shame...great example...one of the best reverses I've seen.
After reading the replies...let us know what you decide.
Good luck
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Ok...just looked up the cert # on PCGS and zoomed in...like Dave said...you can see it. Again...what a shame...was a great example. Still a very nice 22
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The date alone leaves no doubt in my mind that it's a genuine no-D.
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I've had some luck with a plastic restoration product called Meguiar's G12310 PlastX Clear Plastic Cleaner & Polish. It's really made for headlights, but it's good for slabs as well. I got a bottle at Walmart for about $7.
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I'm not seeing a retooled cent. I would break it open and resubmit it.
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I agree with @DavesErrors, it looks like some tooling on the cheek to cover some deep pitting. Still, it's a fantastic example of the 22 no D. If you resubmit it, you'll probably get the same result on the label. Maybe start by polishing up the slab and see how it looks.
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Probably talking about the damage on the cheek.
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TB: I am thinking there was Pitting around the eye and forehead they might have removed. Still a great Pick and if you don't want it UM ya can send it my way. I already know your answer.
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Thanks everyone! Very helpful. And Dave you win, as I'm so tired from just getting back from my summer work that I didn't even think of looking up the cert images. That's opened a new door, as I don't actually have to photograph the coin as those images show how nice it is. I could fairly easily use a broad shot of the slab noting it could use re-holdered, but use the PCGS images to show the actual coin quality. I might just go that route and avoid having to do the re-holder bit. Maybe try the plastic polish to spiffy it up a bit as well. Sounds like the start of a plan. I still haven't decided whether to use this one as an upgrade for the one in my collection, or sell this one off and make a couple bucks over what I paid for it to buy something I don't yet have.

Thanks again!
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TB: Try one of them Headlight renew kits from the auto part store to see if you can clean up the slap, works great on plastic headlight covers. It will take a lil work but I think you can make it look 90% better then it is. I did one of them kits on my Headlights and they look brand new Cheaper then PCGS
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lets see the one you have in your collection...love looking at 22 no D examples.
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I think I have two more of them, but maybe the better one goes G or low end VG. Not worth photos. It's never really been a priority for me to upgrade to something better as not really in the heart of what I collect. Just having a lower end coin from each of the 4 die types has been fine. But after seeing the PCGS images it does give one pause, as unlikely I'll run into another one this nice anytime soon.
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