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Question About Possible Colombian Variation

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 Posted 08/16/2020  6:15 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Elrich to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
I'm putting together a 1970 type set of world coins and I have a question about a possible variation from Colombia. The normal version of the 10 centavos coin that's available has the obverse legend divided as "REPUBLICA DE | COLOMBIA." However, Krause lists a variation KM#243 that has the legend divided as "REPUBLICA | DE COLOMBIA."

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Unfortunately, I've not been able verify it through any other source, meaning as in photographic evidence. Many web sites have just copied Krause's information, but no one's shown any pics. I've even messaged the author of this book, but gotten no response yet.

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I was wondering if anyone could confirm the existence of this variation. If it does exist, was it some sort of obscure test issue that no one is really expected to own, or is it a standard issue that is just difficult to find?

I'd be grateful for any feedback I can get. Thanks.
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@elrich, first welcome to CCF. Second, my first place for looking up modern world coins online is numista. See below for links to the two different inscription varieties mentioned in Krause:

https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces5097.html
https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces2434.html


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the links provided are for 2 different denominations, not sure they are relevant in this case.

numista is based on a huge data set and user contributions, the variety krause lists and everyone else copied (with no values assigned) I suspect simply to be a unicorn.

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@wade that is a great point. My bad.
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https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces34006.html

They aren't supposed to exist, if they do I think it would be a mule or a counterfeit.
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If that coin does not exist, it would not be the first time Krause had a non-existent coin in their catalogue.

It is quite telling that no price was assigned in recent additions of Krause.

However, just to add to the confusion, I have checked my 1991 version of Krause, and look what I have here!

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So, what is the correct story here?

If the Krause catalogue continues, it would be nice if the many mistakes were corrected.


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My goodness. I will say the "error" does not look right to me the date is tiny and the head a bit off. The 20 centavtos is that way but it is significantly bigger.
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Thank you for posting the 1991 Krause catalog information. It's very interesting that the mintages for #243 have been moved to #236 in recent editions (x1000, of course), but the photo is definitely one I have not seen before.

The mystery continues!
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I knew that the 1991 Krause would be useful one day.
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Someone on another forum asked the question if Krause got the photo confused with the 20 centavos, which does have the legend divided after "REPUBLICA." I suppose it's possible that's why later editions have removed the photo for KM#243 (that they realized it was a mistake). But that's why I'm hoping to get a definitive answer as to its existence.

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Quote:
Krause got the photo confused with the 20 centavos


Easy enough to do.
"If you climb a good tree, you get a push."
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