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1812 Capped Bust Half... You Vs. NGC

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Posting a bit early. Not sure I'll be able to pick it up for VF25 money but we'll see. Really like the eye appeal on this one. I agree with the VF30/35 group, although there really isn't a price jump until XF40.
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 Posted 09/01/2020  2:56 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add panzaldi to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
if they found the scratches were made intentionally they would have detailed the coin. the scratch going left to right appears to have been made quite a bit later as attested by the lighter color and therefore determined it was probably a scratch that wasnt that detracting and was not made on purpose. I agree
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if they found the scratches were made intentionally they would have detailed the coin.


And exactly how would they determine that?
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09/01/2020 7:45 pm
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 Posted 09/01/2020  7:31 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'm really surprised and disappointed at the grade.
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 Posted 09/01/2020  7:44 pm  Show Profile   Check Zurie's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Zurie to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Looks undergraded to me, but a very attractive coin regardless.
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The strong patina in the fields shows how effective they can be at hiding significant nicks and scratches.

This coin may have not straight graded on a white AU coin.
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Put me down for VF-30 straight. Great looking coin!
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Unless it's been silently net-graded down to 25 it is undergraded. It's at least a VF30 with conservative grading.
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Sold for $276.00. Had to resist the urge to keep bidding , really liked this one. I'm not one to pay over retail though.

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Scratches (intentional or otherwise) don't automatically detail a coin. Key factors are the location of the scratches, recency/age of the scratches, and whether toning makes the scratches less noticeable. On this coin, the scratches are on the reverse, and do not harm visual appeal of a device. The scratches are older, and well toned.
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It's at least nice to see NGC undergrading coins as apposed to overgrading the for a change.
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They probably market graded the coin. The coin does exhibit VF type wear except the cloth at the bust which is nicely detailed and where I could see it getting a choice VF grade if it weren't for those scratches.
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Looks like a nice VF-30 with great eye appeal.
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I'd agree with VF-30 straight for this coin. However the scratches would greatly bother me as a collector. No way I'd pay near VF-30 retail. I've seen prettier coins then this one get details grades, perhaps if re-submitted this one would too.
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All of this reminds me of what a bozo I am at grading Bust halves, but I still think this rates higher than VF-25. I think it's a killer coin despite minor reverse issues.
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