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1942 S Lincoln Wheat Cent Doubled Die - DDO-002 MS And Eds

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Hit the Gettysburg coin show today and picked this one out for $8. Always thought this one was Cherrypicker worthy, and now seeing this one in a nice early die state I am more convinced than ever. It's a really nice DDO.

1942-S Lincoln Wheat cent doubled die - DDO-002


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Beautiful coin!
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That's an impressive doubled die! Better than I expected.
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I must agree, very very nice DDO.....lovely coin and great price...

? A coin show...what's that?....
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The things that make it into the CPG and the things that don't are an absolute mystery to me. One that was baffling me again today while looking at quarters is the fact that the 1965 DDR-001 is CPG listed, while the far more dramatic DDR-002 is not. Go figure.
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Woah, that's really nice. It's a shame I couldn't make it to the show, I would have gone as well, but my 'rents weren't too keen on me leaving to "Go coin". Though it worked out for me as I was going through some old stuff I had laying around and found a probably $3000 coin I never knew I had, so that was certainly a surprise.

As for why this isn't in CPG, I have no clue. Then again, this is Bill Fivaz were talking about. I respect the dude, and he knows his stuff, but he also says some not so smart stuff. Like the bit about the homestead DDR not actually being a DDR and that all 100+ were re engraved dies. Everyone's entitled to their opinions, even if they're wrong I guess. Though I'll give credit where due. The new edition coming out is adding a crap ton of coins that deserved it, so I'm glad about that.
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@Grapecollects weird, has he justified that at all? Obviously a lot of them are DDRs, but I have to admit I've always found DDR-004 on the homesteads kind of perplexing. The spread is crazy and it really doesn't look like any single-squeeze-era doubled die I've ever seen...
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That's a very nice coin! Excellent pictures and amazing DDO
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DDR-004 on the homesteads kind of perplexing. The spread is crazy and it really doesn't look like any single-squeeze-era doubled die I've ever seen...


That's more or less the basis of his argument is that due to it being a wide spread it can't have come from squeeze hubbing and is therefor a re-engraved die not a doubled die. However, I still am of the opinion that it is a DDR due to the curvature of the secondary device. It matches extremely well, and if it was re-engraved it would have likely been done by an average mint employee and wouldn't be A) that precise and B) that far off.
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I like it TB
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That is an $8 well spent! Beautiful cent and the early die state shows it to be a monster!
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Very nice pickup! Really nice underrated variety.

I should be moving within an hour of Gettysburg soon, maybe I should check out next year's Gettysburg show.

Also fully agree with GrapeCollects. I sent Fivaz the photo of DDR-004 that he used in his presentation and will use in the book. (I figure since that presentation is on YouTube, I'm not spoiling anything) After sending him the photo, he would later ask me an estimate of value. Not once did he mention his disagreement with the DDR label, so his presentation was a surprise to me as well, although he did call the variety a "doozy" in an email.
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Definitely nice - better than I expected when I first read the title.
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That is sweet!
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@Tanman @Grapecollects very interesting! The one thing that does still make me curious about DDR-004 is the fact that the doubling is so strong in the right window, but is non-existent in the left. All the other varieties I've seen for that year show very clear continuity of doubled elements (e.g. DDR-104 also has major doubling on the pump, but has no abrupt cutoff point where the doubling just dramatically ends, and it connects to the main design of the pump itself).
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This is certainly a wonderful variety! Nice find! I agree, very underrated and is a great candidate for CPG. 1965 DDR-002 quarter is a doubled die I thought should have been in the CPG long ago. I hope a lot more great varieties make it in the next release.

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