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2013 Canada 5 Cent, 5 Completely Different Varieties Of DDO

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This may be somewhat of a long post but I will trying to keep it detailed and keep it simple.

Some of you may remember when I posted about a 2013 Nickel that showed doubling on the obverse.

Original Post, http://goccf.com/t/369045

After finding the DDO in that post, for months I continued to search boxes of nickels due to a hunch I had regarding certain years and the likelyhood of doubled dies coming in pairs of 2 or more and not just 1 type (direction, size etc).

Long story short I think I have gathered enough information that should keep the nickel guys on here busy for a bit, each doubled die obverse was produced from a completely different obverse die, I used the "G" in "D.G.REGINA" due to the dots showing the direction in which the doubling goes.


Here you see each Doubled Die I have found, going from somewhat minor (DDO-005), to more severe (DDO-001).

Coin #1 DDO-005
This is the coin from my old Post above, I am not too sure who exactly discovered it, however it is somewhat minor.

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2013-Canada-5-Cent,-5-Completely-Different-Varieties-Of-DDO


Coin #2 DDO-004
This coin again, is somewhat minor however you can see the notching and rotation on which the doubling is going.

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2013-Canada-5-Cent,-5-Completely-Different-Varieties-Of-DDO

Coin #3 DDO-003
This doubled die is not very noticable at first but I assure you it is present.

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Coin #4 DDO-002
This doubled die is actually pretty nice, as you can see the devices are a lot thicker and the spread is more noticable, however this one has more visible doubling on the "ELIZABETH II" portion of the Obverse, unlike the first three doubled dies shown that have the doubling on the "D.G.REGINA" portion.

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2013-Canada-5-Cent,-5-Completely-Different-Varieties-Of-DDO

Coin #1
Last but not least, this doubled die was the hardest one to find, I went through 6 bank boxes of nickels and this is the only one that I have found like this. This doubling has the characteristics like the 1967 1 cent doubled die obverse and focuses more towards the "D.G.REGINA" portion.

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2013-Canada-5-Cent,-5-Completely-Different-Varieties-Of-DDO


I am not exactly sure how many working dies were produced in 2013 for the 5 cent nickel, from my count I have 6 coins from 6 different dies (5 being doubled) and one not being doubled.

There is no mistaking these as Machine Doubling or Die Deterioration, the split serifs & notching is 100% alive and well on all 5 coins and I can provide more photos if need be, I tried to keep my photo count down to not take up too much space.
Finding and discovering modern Canadian doubled die varieties since 2018.

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Modern Canadian Doubled Die Varieties - First Edition
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10/02/2020 04:34 am
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The lack of responses vs views I can understand, it is probably a lot to look at considering it is more than one coin, I forgot to mention that the arrows are not pointing to any specific area in question in case they may have caused any confusion. The arrows are actually being used to show which direction the second hubbing is going and on all 5 coins that direction is different from the last.

I will upload more photos this evening showing the doubling more clearly, DDO-001 and DDO-002 have the most severe doubling out of the 5 and can be better seen on the left side of the obverse.

Right now I am searching them for die markers and trying to determine during which hubbing they were produced. DDO-001 looks eerily similar to the DDO found on the 1967, 1975 & 1976 1 Cent as it has all of the same characteristics in spread, location and direction of the doubling, the only difference is the font used on the devices for 2013 are bolder than those found on the small cents from 1960's to 1978.

I really wish they made small cents still as I would love to have a complete set of 2013 DDO's from 1 cent to 2 dollars, now I feel like my set is not completed and I only need to find a DDO for the 2013 dime.

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Modern Canadian Doubled Die Varieties - First Edition
PDF & Paperback https://www.mcddv.ca (website currently down for maintenance as of 08/01/2024)
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 Posted 10/05/2020  8:57 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add rocky to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
John totally excellent nice work very well done you have a great one. john if you dont fine a 2013 dime. if I come across one. I let you know. you have a great one. keep up the good work.
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The lack of replies is because you are looking a modern coins a whole lot closer (i.e., higher magnification) than anyone else I know... even I don't look at small cents or nickel dollars _that_ closely...

That is not a bad thing, I admire your dedication to the hunt, and you are finding cool things where nobody bothered to look before.
"Discovery follows discovery, each both raising and answering questions, each ending a long search, and each providing the new instruments for a new search." -- J. Robert Oppenheimer

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 Posted 10/07/2020  12:28 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add JohnWayne007 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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The lack of replies is because you are looking a modern coins a whole lot closer (i.e., higher magnification) than anyone else I know... even I don't look at small cents or nickel dollars _that_ closely...


I agree, I know that I do tend to get a little too comfertable with the zoom settings and most higher magnification is not all that interesting.

However it is worth mentioning coin #1 and coin #2 can easily be seen with a loupe as that is exactly how I found them and the high magnification is merely just to show what I see, the photos provided only show a small portion of the doubling for each coin.

My passion for genuine Canadian doubled dies has no limit, big or small as long as I can confirm it I'm a happy camper.
Finding and discovering modern Canadian doubled die varieties since 2018.

2023 Recent Publications:
Modern Canadian Doubled Die Varieties - First Edition
PDF & Paperback https://www.mcddv.ca (website currently down for maintenance as of 08/01/2024)
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