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1883 CC Morgan For Grading

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Another Morgan grading feedback. Thanks in advance.

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 Posted 10/02/2020  5:27 pm  Show Profile   Check Zurie's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Zurie to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The cheek looks pretty rough, I'd say MS-62, possibly PL.
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 Posted 10/02/2020  5:36 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Keith67 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Close up of that mint mark ple ASE
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 Posted 10/02/2020  6:31 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ty2020b to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
MS62/63, possible PL as well
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Too much flashback on left obverse field to see details clearly.
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Tiniest amount of wear scuffing, both sides through the luster on the high points of the design, especially over Lib's ear. In hand examination of the high points with a 10x loupe should confirm.
AU-58 PL.

Those dings on Lib's cheek will certainly not help with the value - they are just so much at odds with the nice condition of relatively undisturbed luster in the fields.
Reverse obviously better, and perhaps a grade higher, but most MS-60 coins have more dings overall than this example.

Nevertheless, being a CC and PL, it is a desirable coin.
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 Posted 10/03/2020  08:47 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ham1947 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'll go with PL, but better photos needed to accurately grade.
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I'm in the 62/63 PL crowd based on these images.
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the 83(CC) is known for bold strikes. this one falls into that category. I cant comment on PL qualities as the lighting is washing out quite a bit of the surfaces. I'm at MS63 due to the obverse
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I would like to know what's going on with the MM and the 2 dots.

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Could be die polishing inside the left C. The spots are probably just some flecks on the mirrored surface. Looks like it might be a VAM-8 based on the mintmark position.
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 Posted 10/03/2020  6:38 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Hunter611 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Several more picts; I really appreciate the feedback and I'm finding this coin is difficult for me to photo due to the mirroring effect:

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We know the cheek and neck are problem areas, but the obverse field details are still not clear. MS-63 at best, if that.
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new photos help a little with the reverse which looks PL still not sold on obverse
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This coin is killing me with picts due to the mirroring effect on both side. Gotta take a break,lol, on this one.
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OP should know for himself about problem cheek area, after in hand examination with a 10x loupe just as the third party graders do.

I appreciate the problems with photography regarding PL fields.

Keith12 has a valid question regarding the mm.
I have to admit: I am unable provide the answer.
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