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 . Ok, so we already determined that this was a Philadelphia minted penny, but can I ask this please. Now be nice, I am just looking for an answer to a question. Now what if I was say positive that I knew the. D had been ground off, like say I did it myself or I knew who did, anything, just positive, now If it was your coin in this situation what would you do. I know they can get serial numbers that have been scratched offf but would probably damage the coin. It looks like it's been cleaned anyway. So if it was you would you do anything? If so what? I hope I didn't screw this up!!
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Um, not sure what you are asking or what your goal is.
Yes from the image you posted it appears to be a small date, minted in Philadelphia.
If it had a D for mint mark, and it was removed, then what you actually have is a 1982 D small date with post mint damage where the D was removed.
Why you or whoever would want to remove the D mint mark makes no sense since you basically took the time and energy to grind the D off of a coin worth one penny in hopes of producing if 100% successful a coin worth one penny baffles me.
All of the 1982 pennies are worth face value with the exception of the 1982 D small date copper coin, which brings a huge premium. So if I am understanding your thought of altering a regular 1 cent coin in hopes of turning into a gold mine, you would have to start with a copper small date Philadelphia penny and add the D. and good luck with that.
So to answer your question about what I would do with the penny you posted, I would spend it. And try to figure out another get rich quick plan, that doesn't involve minting coins.
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No nothing like that, it already weighs 3.1 grams. I can see where the picture can't quite what's the word I'm looking for? Portray what you can see with a loop. It would be worth trying to follow up on if that were the case. Why someone would do that I don't know, I was going to ask if Denver might have caught some and did it like they did the VDB.
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I don't know what you mean about the VDB, but there is no chance the mint would have taken the time to grind the mint mark off struck coins. Just a normal Philadelphia minted coin.
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Still unsure of your question.  |
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Yes, I'm a tad confused.
Whatever might/could have happened or did happen, I'd follow my conscience. I'd be ethical.
Edited by ijn1944
10/23/2020 10:01 am
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Sorry, you lost me. I'm interested in understanding what you are asking, but I have no idea what the question is. Maybe you can explain what the Denver mint did with the VDB as a starting point.  ANA ID: 3203813 - CONECA ID: N-5637 Clean a coin that may be worth collecting? Please DON'T! When in doubt, leave it dirty!! 
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The removal of the VDB on the 1909 VDB Cents occurred because there was a public backlash on the placement of the initials. It was just moved to the obverse under the bust. If a mint mark was removed at the mint, there would be no way of knowing it happened unless that particular coin only had one mint mark. For example: modern proof coins have S mint marks. There are multiple proof varieties where the mint mark was not struck with the coins. BUT, these are identifiable because the modern proof coins only have one possible mint mark: an S, so If you find a modern proof without a mint mark, you know you have something special. Lincoln Cents minted in 1982 were struck with a D for Denver and " no mint mark" for Philadelphia. So if the mint mark was not included on one of the dies, there would be no way of knowing whether it was from Denver where they forgot to add the MM, or if it was minted in Philadelphia where they do not include mint marks in the first place. It would be impossible to tell. If the D was manually removed from the coin, then there wouldn't be any definitive way of finding out if there was ever a D there or if it was just badly damaged in that area. At least, that's what I think. Hope this isn't too confusing!  -CH27 Collector of U.S. Coins, Varieties, and Colonial Coinage
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10/23/2020 12:08 pm
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Interesting point on this site: https://coinweek.com/dealers-compan...ersial-coin/Read after: "And Then the Controversy:"Quote:
Some felt that the letters were simply too prominent, and others felt that since Brenner had been paid for his work, he didn't need recognition. (Underline added by coop)
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10/23/2020 1:53 pm
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CoinHunter said... Quote:
The removal of the VDB on the 1909 VDB Cents occurred because there was a public backlash on the placement of the initials. It was just moved to the obverse under the bust. That I understand.  I was just asking hodi what he thought the the mint did to the VDB cents so we might be able to relate it to his coin. ANA ID: 3203813 - CONECA ID: N-5637 Clean a coin that may be worth collecting? Please DON'T! When in doubt, leave it dirty!!
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I have no doubt you understand Yokozuna! I was just trying to provide some background information since he asked about the VDB.
-CH27
Collector of U.S. Coins, Varieties, and Colonial Coinage
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