Unlisted RRDC / Pre Cud On 1998-P Quarter

Coop, just curious but does an existing full-fledged die break need to exist for there to be a classification of "pre Cud" aka die crack. Or does the area, style & shape of crack, and location play a more dominant role in the determination between the two?

Maybe it was superficial thinking on my part for assuming the later of the two. That is, an arcing rim-to-rim die crack (RRDC) is a pre Cud. And an irregular crack that does not touch two points on the rim, is just a normal die crack.

By the way I chuckled at the cartoon. Definitely relevant.

A Retained Cud will show a moving of the devices that show it is still attached to the die, but has not broken off yet to form a Cud:




Often the Retained Cud on the reverse dies, keeps striking many coins as the collar prevents it from spliting off. But eventually it breaks off a the void is opened and now Cuds appear on the coins because the void opening.

The hammer dies will have more Cuds on the older style multi hubbed coins. But the anvil dies have less because of the collar holding the die together.


Dual Cud:

On on each side of the coin. Note the weakness opposite the Cuds on the other side? That confirms that this is a Cud and not just something that was added to the coin. So look for the weakness opposite of the Cuds:







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