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1994-D Washington Quarter Strong Doubling On Both Sides!

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Hello Everyone, I found a 1994-D Washington quarter with very very prominent doubling on both sides. I was wondering what you all think and how valuable this might be. Did I find a gem in the beginning of my coin collecting adventures?

OBVERSE: Strong doubling (tripling?) on the entire obverse. Especially on "IN GOD WE TRUST" and in the date. You can see "shelves" on the bottom of "LIBERTY" and an outline around the nose and lips.

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REVERSE: Doubling on "E. PLURIBUS UNUM" especially on the "U". Theres doubling on the beak, under the wing, and less noticeably throughout the branches and leaf designs. There are also signs of doubling on "QUARTER"

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 Posted 11/01/2020  3:45 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Plewellyn to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Here is a full picture of the obverse and reverse.

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Note you are looking at the outside edge of the devices. That is usually Machine Doubling. A doubled die has the devices on a spread in the centers of the devices.
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[red]Why does a doubled die look like that? The doubling is on the die because of the hub process not falling exactly over a previous hubbing. Thus the doubling is on the die. What you have is a normal die, with the machine altering the devices right after the strike. The looseness of the machine affects the coins, damaging and removing the contour of the devices. This also happens on a doubled die as well flattening the devices:
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Note the date is doubled on this doubled die. But also note the yellow arrows? Those are where the machine altered thess devices right after the strike. Machine Doubling on a coin is usually in a single direction, thus the same direction appears on each of these different coins. But MD does have a hard set rules, like alerting stuff in the same direction:
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Note how the MD is not always the same. The looseness is not always the same. A doubled die is consitant because the doubling is on the die, but subject to Machine Doubling alteration. Caused by the machine.
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Coop, So Machine Doubling is fairly common, but wouldn't major Machine Doubling surely be worth something? Also, I have another 1994-D Washington quarter with doubling too, is that just proof of a loose machine when minting?
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Regardless of how strong/extensive, it is still not a doubled die. A doubled die has the doubling on the die. I've seen a lot stronger MD than on your coin:
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To a variety collector, they mean nothing. In fact if I saw MD on a variety coin I considered on buying, I would pass. It is a distraction of the real doubling that is present on the coin. The me it is just damaged devices on the coin. Newbies buy them, but later on they figure out it was not what they thought they were buying. Then they are upset and come here and complain.
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I understand, I hadn't claimed it to be a doubled die. I was just curious about the coin.
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Take a look at the doubled dies listed by Variety Vista:
http://www.varietyvista.com/09b%20W...Listings.htm
The years on that page without being underlines, do not have any listed by them for those years on the obverses. Pretty much the same on the reverses:
http://www.varietyvista.com/09b%20W...Listings.htm
So I save my eyes on those years.
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to CCF. It is MD and has no premium.
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Sadly Machine Doubling adds nothing substantial to the value of the coin--unless the MD is out-of-this world spectacular. But even in the most spectacular cases, net gain won't get you a modest down payment on a used 2006 Ford Focus with 220K miles on it.
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I was with you on the car until you said 220k miles Ha!
Honestly I was excited about $30 or so, not the possibility of thousands
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@plew, first welcome to CCF. Second, that was a really nice job that you did with the adding color to some pics to emphasize the doubling that you were seeing with the coin in hand. Even though it is only worth face value, you certainly could keep this one as a pretty visible example of MD.
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I agree with Spence.
The highlighting you added made it easy to see the areas you were referring to.
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