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1876 CC Trade Dollar - Authentic Or High Quality Fake?

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Seems this series is about the most faked area of numismatics - so thought i'd ask the opinion of some of the folks on here. Nothing about it screams a problem to me, but I do not specialise in this area. All opinions welcome - thanks
1876-CC-Trade-Dollar---Authentic-Or-High-Quality-Fake?
1876-CC-Trade-Dollar---Authentic-Or-High-Quality-Fake?
1876-CC-Trade-Dollar---Authentic-Or-High-Quality-Fake?
1876-CC-Trade-Dollar---Authentic-Or-High-Quality-Fake?
1876-CC-Trade-Dollar---Authentic-Or-High-Quality-Fake?
1876-CC-Trade-Dollar---Authentic-Or-High-Quality-Fake?
1876-CC-Trade-Dollar---Authentic-Or-High-Quality-Fake?
1876-CC-Trade-Dollar---Authentic-Or-High-Quality-Fake?
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Other than the graffiti, I don't see anything wrong with it. Although it looks genuine to me, I'm always wary about raw Trade dollars.
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What is this crater/dimple to the lower left of the eagles' left-wing?
Also, the graffiti ziggzagg ("M") seems to be on top of the field? If that's the case, the die should have this ziggzagg?
Also, there is a "V" ziggzagg between the sheaf and the second last star on the right.
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If it's genuine it's a details coin because of the damage.
You'd be better off buying a graded no problem coin.
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I think it is a counterfeit
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Comparing these images with those of genuine ones, it looks pretty good to me, but I yield to the experts.
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Also, the graffiti ziggzagg ("M") seems to be on top of the field? If that's the case, the die should have this ziggzagg?
Also, there is a "V" ziggzagg between the sheaf and the second last star on the right.


It looks like someone carved the name "Kip W" onto the surface. It's raised because of the displacement of metal from the cuts.
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I am by far no expert but it appears genuine to me. But like others have said leave it to someone that specializes in them. Pitty about the graffiti.
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I too do not see any indication of it being fake. Looks genuine to me. Certainly a details graffiti coin and one I would pass on though.
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Thanks all for the input so far - glad it it leaning heavily towards being authentic. Such a shame about the graffiti - I didn't buy it as an individual, it came to me as part of a collection. Assuming it is authentic (i'd hazard a guess at AU details if graded NGC/PCGS) - what would you estimate value? Maybe between $500 - 700 or so?
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probably around $500
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I wouldn't want to value a graffiti coin.
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The graffiti lowers the value substantially and limits the buyer pool. Probably $500 or less is the right ballpark, unless you can find a buyer named Kip W!
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Can't put my finger on it, but looks fishy. I'd have it authenticated. let us know!
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Just a quick update on this one - came back from NGC UNC details, so I'm happy enough with that!
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