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Obw Lincoln Wheat Rolls?

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 Posted 12/07/2008  11:01 pm Show Profile   Check BH1964's eBay Listings Bookmark this topic Add BH1964 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
I picked up a couple of these tonight for what looked to be a decent price.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dl...290279533103

My questions are: 1)Do you think these are really OBW rolls? and 2)Would you open them?

I appreciate your input.
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 Posted 12/08/2008  12:18 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Metalman to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The roll looks original to me , and the price is great !

you can check here http://koinpro.tripod.com/ErrorVarietyList.htm and coppercoins pages for any known varieties for the 56-P and use that info to decide to open them or not , Myself I open them looking for gems but its really a personal choice .

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 Posted 12/08/2008  12:42 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Swampfox to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
IMO, the end of the roll with the obverse showing has been tampered with. OBW rolls can be opened and re-closed easily. Below is a photo of a roll of Martin Van Buren Dollars that I opened and removed 7 Peg Leg "P" mint Marks from. Replaced the 7 dollars and resealed it using my fingernails and a pencil.

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 Posted 12/08/2008  03:14 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add 1gtsfan to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
it does look tampered with from the end with heads showing. I would open it, after all isn't that why you bought it? I also think that there should be some toning on that end since its already been 52 years. still a pretty good deal for a BU Roll though.
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It just looks like they were looking for the date on the roll to me , since in the photo in does not appear to have one written on the roll and the date does not show on the obverse end .

of course anything is possible .
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Being in law enforcement all my life, I might be a little overly suspicious. When a seller adds this line "As with many of these rolls, there is the possibilty of toning, spots, fingerprints, smudges, etc" he is planting the seed in your mind that there is some coins in this roll your not going to be happy with. CYA. Let us know how these turn out.
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I don' know. If you look at his recent auctions, he sells a lot of BU rolls for $30 each or so. $12 doesn't look like such a bad price for OBW. And critically analyzing how the ends are closed is a kind of fool's errand. As someone said - it's been 50 years! I'd be more suspicious if they looked perfect.

As far as opening 'em. I've got a few pre-1982 OBW rolls and a couple Jefferson OBW's. I keep dreaming of that long, rainy day with nothing else to do. Nah. Probably never open them. Or maybe I will....
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I mean no dis-respect however, with a post like "one" above, isn't that the exact reason for any suspicion in the first place?
I would enjoy the coins, and always, buyer beware!!!
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I am one of those people that must know what treasures might be inside.
I am also one of those people that likes to look at coins, not rolls of coins.

So my obviously biased advice to you is to open them!
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I say open them. The fun and excitement of opening them makes it worth the cost of the roll. Why leave the fun to someone else in the future.
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Hard to say if they're original. People sell bank wraps and the shotgun presses on ebay too. It's easy enough to acquire BU coins and then home wrap them for a premium. Lots of people are doing for sure. Just like counterfeit coins, there's counterfeit rolls out there too.
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I wonder where they got the rolls with that banks name on it ? don't see many of those these days .
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I wonder where they got the rolls with that banks name on it ? don't see many of those these days .


Since they're supposed to be from '56 that would be normal. I remember bank names being commonly applied to their wrappers but you're right - You don't see that much anymore as it costs money!

Once they arrive and post more comments.
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I own a lot of BU Wheat rolls, from looking at your pictures I would be wary. When you get it, shake it. If they are real loose they could have been opened then resealed. Check for toning on the coins when you open it, if one is toned on the inside of the roll it could have been the end coin at one time. I had that happen once, the end coins were BU, when opened there was one that was toned just like it was on the end at one time.

Also, try opening the roll then put them back in the roll and seal it up, see if you can do it and how it looks. I have done it and could not tell the difference. There is one kind of roll that is impossable to open then reseal-

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These rolls are crimped real tight on the ends.


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I wonder where they got the rolls with that banks name on it ? don't see many of those these days

All wheats form 40-50's
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I usually but from a seller, a small lot, to see what he is "peddlimng". If it turns out good stuff, I go back for more. Is it is crap, he gets an extremely nice feedback. most butyers will recognize that as a red flag. As far as the type of rolls shown, I have over a hundred of the same thing, and they are not all stiff, dried brittle paper. I have filled many of them, myself, and store my un-checked rolls, by date, and MM, in boxes of decades. as far as whether to open, or not? You will never know what you missed if you don't. By the sdame toklen, you will wish you had just sent them back, un-opened! It all depends on what you find, AFTER you open the rolls. LOL
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