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Bedrock of the Community
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Where did you get it and how much did you pay?
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Bedrock of the Community
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Other than the possibility of an electrotype, which I do not believe is likely, I don't see anything that would make me think it isn't genuine. (There are electrotypes of both w ith and without pole 1796 Half Cents but they were made from much better condition pieces than this one. Electotypes are copper shells filled with lead so no they are not magnetic.) I think the condition of this one was just so rough they weren't willing to cover it with their guarantee, just in case.
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I bought a box of junk silver and copper from a garage sale in Pennsylvania for $300 it was in there. Guy said he wasn't sure what was in there he wasn't the one who collected them.
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Conder, why do you think that coin is in poor condition? OP's pictures are not very good at all, but I think it's a terrific VG-F details with moderate pitting/corrosion. This coin is worth multiples of five figures if it's genuine.
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Bedrock of the Community
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I wouldn't consider the surface corrosion to be just moderate, more like moderate to severe and since it is over all of the surfaces that would make it difficult to impossible to look for any die features a counterfeiter might have left on the coin. think about many of the fakes that have gotten past the TPG's recently that were unmasked by repeating contact marks from the original source coin. It would be possible to make a fake die from a decent coin, but whose marks would make it identifiable, and then corrode the coin to hide those features. If the TPG certifies it they could be on the hook for tens of thousands of dollars. So rather than risk that you get a "No decision" verdict. No passable die struck fake 1796 has been seen yet, but it is a risk for them. If this had had better surfaces it probably would have been certified.
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Pillar of the Community
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The two topics have been merged to keep the conversation in one place. 
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jbuck please do not merge my post how are people suppose to know that all new information on a coin that could be worth tens of thousands of dollars is now on the 23rd comment? I want the same people who commented on this post to see a new post and not an old post with almost 1000 views and when you open it see old outdated photos. Thank you.
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These pictures are MUCH better and the coin looks genuine to me. Fine details to my eye and I've seen a million EACs with more corrosion than this. TPG either knows something we don't about the coin or is being unbearably pedantic, which is very much not like them to do. Just send it to PCGS instead. If they say the same thing, there's something specific about the coin they're seeing that we aren't.
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Thank you 1796nopole. I talked to PCGS since they have looked at it in the past and I was told by a staff member it needs to be unanimous. I asked how many graders looked at it and what the decision was between them like how many said yes its real or no its fake. She wouldn't answer that question and I wasn't allowed to speak with a grader. Id like to send it in again but not sure how to go about it. Plus I'd love if someone from EAC would look at it I contacted them they said they'd have someone get in touch with me and I haven't heard back since.
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Pillar of the Community
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Quote: Plus I'd love if someone from EAC would look at it I contacted them they said they'd have someone get in touch with me and I haven't heard back since. I would imagine that everyone on/at EAC volunteer their time and are NOT "employees". Show a little bit of patience dude. The grading company told you why your coin was not certified. You can argue and disagree all you want. At the end of the day though it's their guarantee, reputation and money on the line once a coin is placed in a slab. (By the way, punctuating your sentences would make your posts more readable. Periods and commas go a long way!)
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For folks interested in a deep dive on this coin, here is a link to a now-locked additional thread: http://goccf.com/t/390354#3340569@dstring, I am requesting that you keep the discourse here civil. We are here to help and educate people. Sarcasm belongs elsewhere. Thx.
"If you climb a good tree, you get a push." -----Ghanaian proverb
"The danger we all now face is distinguishing between what is authentic and what is performed." -----King Adz
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Pillar of the Community
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Considering that no one will certify your coin maybe take the hint.
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Pillar of the Community
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If someone offered you 5K for this coin and you only paid 300 for the whole lot I am a bit surprised you didn't jump all over that. Bob Grellman would be an EAC member who could evaluate your coin.
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