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1872 Seated Liberty Toned Value?

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 Posted 12/25/2020  6:07 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add PileOfCoins to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Thanks for your guys help on this.
But I'm looking to get your guys/gals opinions on what kind of value I have for these. I've found no sort of list on how much in value one is increased or decreased in value with the tones.
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 Posted 12/25/2020  6:27 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Adam_E to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
details appear to be AU but it looks like it's been cleaned to me.

I would consider it an AU Details and pay no more than $500 for it myself
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AU details (cleaned). Value will depend on the state of the surfaces (cleaning marks), which can't be evaluated from these pics.
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Harshly cleaned coin in XF/AU details.

Just another ruined Seated dollar now worth half of what it used to be before cleaning.

Sad.
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 Posted 12/25/2020  7:16 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Rothery to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Now that one does look cleaned - that's a shame.
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XF/AU Details cleaned as well. A lot of these circulated examples you've posted appear to be cleaned and toning due to contaminates on the surfaces. Some appear to have heat applied. Out of curiosity, if you don't mind my asking, how did you come to acquire these? A number appear to be coming from the same source.
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 Posted 12/25/2020  11:34 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add fortcollins to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
First,

Ouch. This one has been cleaned to death, and the retoning isn't natural. I'd call it EF Details, just short of AU Details. Before cleaning, it would have been around $500. IMHO, it would be lucky to snag about half that amount now.
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I'd confirm the weight and dimensions before saying anything more. It appears genuine in these images but high quality counterfeits abound. There are a couple things that make this coin of questionable authenticity.

Assuming it is genuine I would grade it AU Details-Cleaned and value it around $300.

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WADR, I think you guys are being wayyy too harsh on value.

Heres an NGC AU details cleaned that sold for $672 https://www.ebay.com/itm/1872-SEATE...p-cvip-panel

This VG-10 details-cleaned sold for $275

https://www.ebay.com/itm/1872-Seate...p-cvip-panel

Imo this is a $500 coin, after the $40 or so expense to get it certified
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12/26/2020 12:31 am
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this is just two locations to find prices. best is to look at these then look at sold category on ebay and should have a pretty good idea. damaged/cleaned coins are little more difficult to prices. others here have given you their assessment

http://www.numismedia.com/fmv/fmv.shtml

https://www.PCGS.com/prices/us
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XF/AU Cleaned details. $300 is a fair price.
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Taking a closer look at the photos, this die marriage could be 1872 OC-9, which is a bit scarce. The pics are fuzzy and coin has been tortured with overpolishing, so the markers are iffy.

Both 1872 and 1871 are very common dates, and there are large numbers of each readily available up to MS-64. In today's eye appeal market, I just can't see this one selling north of $250-ish. There are too many better examples readily available.
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All I can say is, point me to any one of these in a similar condition and I'll buy em at $250 all day long, keep them in my pocket for a year or two and wear away the cleaning to a market acceptable XF, and sell it for $150 more
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