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Rainbow Toning On ASE Coins

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 Posted 12/28/2020  4:17 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add keikat02 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Hi, I am new to this website and would like to say HELLO. I have two questions I would like to ask concerning natural Rainbow Toning and dipping high silver content coins. First, "Does Rainbow Toning developing around the outer obverse/reverse surface areas of an American Silver Eagle ( ASE) coin corrode, destroy, and eventually remove the coin's minted surface?" If so, "Do you believe this is a valid reason for dipping the silver coin to remove the corrosive toning or is it to late to dip the coin once the Rainbow Toning has developed on the coin's surface?" My reason for asking these questions is due to the fact I am bringing my America Silver Eagle album collection up to date and notice several of my earlier BU ASE minted date coins are developing the black, purple, red, and gold Rainbow Toning around the outer edges of the coins. I am not an advocate of dipping silver coins; however, if the Rainbow Toning does eventually destroy the minted coins' surface, I hate to see my ASE collection ruined by the toning. In turn, I would appreciate your comments, suggestions, and opinions regarding these questions. Thank you.
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 Posted 12/28/2020  6:27 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Rothery to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
You probably would be better off posting a few pictures of your toned coins so people here can get a better idea of the type and amount of toning you are talking about. That way you can get a more precise answer.
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 Posted 12/28/2020  7:06 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sel_69l to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Although they may be very attractive, with excellent eye appeal,
rainbow toning commands no preferential difference for a specialist bullion dealer.

Beautiful rainbow toning on ASE's can be easily artificially reproduced by those who know how to do it.
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 Posted 12/28/2020  10:01 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CelticKnot to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
First, to a fellow ASE collector!

And with both sel and Rothery:

Some folks will ask for insane money for outlandish toning on ASEs (check ebay) but you are better off putting your money elsewhere.

If/since your ASEs are beginning to tone, check your storage. If you live in a high-humidity climate, you'll need to make sure you're conditioning (i.e., drying out) your storage. That is the primary culprit when ASEs tone.

Good luck and we'd love to see some photos.
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Harder to sell blotchy toned ASE's on the collector market, but
perhaps a specialist bullion dealer won't mind too much if they have had a quick dip.

I agree: If unsightly toning, review your storage methods, particularly in a humid climate.
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 Posted 12/29/2020  12:41 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add keikat02 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
First of all, thank you for all your comments, advice, and suggestions. However, what I am wanting to know is "Will the natural occurring (not artificially created) Rainbow Toning developing on the obverse/reverse outer 1/8" side edges of my American Silver Eagle ( ASE) coins eventually corrode, destroy, and "eat away" the minted coin's surface where the toning is located? Presently, my ASE coins are stored in a DANSCO album that is at least 23 years old; however, was new when purchased. Since I live 15 miles east of Dallas, Texas, my residence is not located in a humid region and the DANSCO album is stored inside my home in a 5 drawer wooden cabinet with a small pillow on top of the album. I do not like the natural RAINBOW TONING my ASE coin's are developing since I prefer the bright "cart-wheel" frosty swirling luster appearance when the coins were first purchased. My next question is "If the natural occurring toning does eventually destroy the coin's surface, wouldn't it be better to attempt to remove the toning by "dipping" (not rubbing) the coin in a mild silver cleaning solution (please recommend one) to preserve the coin? I realize these are silver bullion coins; however, all of my ASE coins would grade at least MS69 since they are visually perfect requiring a loop to identify any imperfections. Lastly, when the BU ASE coins are quickly dipped and rinsed with distilled water, will the BU coin's "cart-wheel" luster be lost and the coin's background frosty appearance changed in anyway? I will be looking forward to your responses. Once again, thank you in advance for your comments, advice, and any suggestions you might have.
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Hi, I have attached two photos of a 1992 ASE coin developing natural toning inside the DANSCO album my ASE coins are stored. The obverse/reverse sides are protected by the DANSCO plastic inserts. I realize Rainbow Toning develops on Morgan dollars, in excess of 100 years old; however, I don't believe their blank planchets were .999 silver which may or may not prevent their toning from destroying the Morgan dollar coin's surface. I will be looking forward to your responses concerning whether you think this toning is corrosive enough to "eat away" the coins surface. Thank you in advance.

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Ok, some rim toning. I don't think in your lifetime you will see that take over the coin, turn black, and start ruining the surface. I heard of it happening but have never actually seen it. I have seen the colorful toning turn to black and that is pretty unsightly, but then again, not to worry as that takes many years. As far as dipping goes to remove it - I've never dipped a coin so someone else can help you there.
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For any silver dollar sized coin in MS blast white condition and appearance,
I would enclose them in individual snap shut air tight acrylic capsules.
You will then not have to worry about a humid environment.
If you wish, put the capsules in 2.5x2.5 inch 12 pocket non PVC album pages, and seal the pocket openings with tape.

If you are still worrying about the humid conditions, put the album in a clip lock plastic bag of appropriate size.

Light toning will not affect the value of a bullion coin; it's just that as the toning increases to affect the eye appeal in an unsightly way, some coin dealers will offer a slight discount price under that for an untoned coin.
As seen here in the CCF, lots of collectors appreciate nicely rainbow toned silver coins. Those coins with blotchy toning are much less appreciated, - that's a collector issue, not a bullion problem.

Although toning can be very attractive, it is nevertheless an extremely mild form of corrosion, but it should never affect the actual silver value.

As far as I am able to discern, specialist bullion dealers will still happily buy back lightly dipped silver bullion coins.
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Thank you to all of you who have responded to my inquiry. What I have done to hopefully prevent any additional coin toning is order a 3/4" DANSCO slipcase cover, with the manufacturer's applied protective coating, advertised to neutralize any chemical toning gases the coins might come in contact with. In turn, if any of you have purchased and used this DANSCO product, please let me know your experience with this item. Thank you for all your responses and suggestions.
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