Here I Come Again. 1982 P DD ?

We don't give up on you. We try our best to help, and then we move on. We have to help a lot of people on the daily. So we can't spend all our time on one post.

Sincerely,

TCD

Just a well placed hit on those devices. The master hub hub was swelling that year, that is why the devices look larger than normal. But they all looked like that, that year. A new master hub was created the next year. When you look at the two years, you can see how the devices looked larger that year.

Note how much larger the devices are on the 1982 compared with the 1983 design. Even the head is larger.

I got my equipment yesterday.
1. New Camera
2. New Scale
Let's talk now. Here I have compared my 1982P that I am claiming is a DD with the 1982 D.
Tell me your thoughts now.

1982D (No DD)



1982P Which I am claiming is the DD

How can the DD be detected then? There must be a difference from the others.
My picture shows more thickness in the 1982P coin. I have others an none are quite that thick.

You have correctly detected it.

What PetesPocket is saying is that because the die that was doubled was a master die, all of the working hubs made from that master die will include the doubling and then all of the working dies (the ones that actually make the coins) made from those hubs will also include the doubling.

Because the doubling is on virtually every coin made from that master die, it's value to collectors is very limited and that doubling is generally not included in lists of doubled coins. It's generally only coins that have had the doubling introduced on the working die that are of interest to the collectors, because of the limited numbers involved.

The 1972 Lincoln Cent is another example of doubling that occurred on a master hub and that is not valued by collectors. There are 1972 doubled dies cents that are collected, but by some accounts as many as 50% of all 1972 cents show doubling from a doubled hub and thus are not worth anything. Distinguishing between the two types of doubling can be very tricky.

As to the second part of your question, about differences between coins in the same year, these are due to die age and wear. The more a die was used, the more the devices get pushed out towards the edge of the coin and the more that part of the die breaks down, resulting in fatter, thicker letters. This kind of deterioration also happens first towards the rim, so the differences you're seeing are most likely evidence of the age of the dies.

WMDO = Wexler's listing for master die doubling. That means you can expect to see that doubling on at least a large fraction of all coins minted that year. E.g. the 1972 master die doubling appears on roughly half of all 1972 Lincoln cents.