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1943 P Wartime Nickels

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How can you tell a wartime planchet from a copper zinc? I have a 43 p that doesn't quite look like my other War Nickels. Its low grade so I did a drop test and compared it to another coin. Although there is a high pitched ping, so did the non War Nickel although a third coin made a thud. Here's a pic of them along with other nickels to give you an idea of coloration.
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How can you tell a wartime planchet from a copper zinc?
Never heard of a copper zinc nickel. You can tell the difference in metal composition by weight most times.
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Why are the dates blocked out?
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Yes knowing the weight of this pieces would help us to determine if you have an off-metal strike.
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There were no copper-zinc nickels, I think you mean copper-nickel.

You cannot judge the metallic composition of a coin by surface color/appearance. All 1943 nickels are 35% silver. A drop test or ring test on a 35% silver coin is not conclusive.

Assuming all three are 1943-P nickels, they are all 35% silver. The major element in "regular" nickels and "war" nickels" is copper which comprises well over half the total weight of either.
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The warnicks will have a large mint mark above Monticello! The others will not.



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The planchets can be distinguished by color, or more precisely by optical metal testing. In your photo I'd say the center nickel is standard alloy, the left wartime composition, and the one of the right is a tougher call, but I'll say standard alloy.
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My bad I did mean copper nickel. It was late when I posted. 2 weigh 4.85 the other 5.1. @nick the center is 64 d, left is 43 d, right 43 p. The 64 made the same sound as the silver ones. Another 64 made a flat sound. I blocked out dates and mint marks to take the power of suggestion out while looking at color.
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Sorry, meant to clarify , 43d weighs 4.83, 64 is 4.85 and 43p is 5.12
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What is the tolerance for nickels? Ive found one @4.7 but another at 5.2.
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The 64 made the same sound as the silver ones

Does the "sound" test apply to 35% silver nickels or just coins that are 90% ?
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You usually tell by color on Mint State Examples, but circulated can be hard due to toning or corrosion or environmental damage.

Here is Silver 5 cents, also notice the large P on the reverse.

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Here is a Cooper/Nickel 5 cents, no P on reverse.

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A large mintmark over the dome is the clue for the "War Nickels."
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