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1623 French Jeton Of The Council Of King Louis XIIi

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I am considering this 1623 Jeton to replace the one I had that was stolen 10 years ago. The vendor tells me he thinks this one was cleaned. I imagine for numismatic items this old, that is quite common. What grade do you think this would receive? And do you think NGC would grade this as a details coin for being cleaned or do you think NGC would likely straight grade this?


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 Posted 01/08/2021  6:17 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Pertinax to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
This is a rare jeton. It should be in silver with a diameter of about 27mm.

The other 3 specimens that I've seen were toned and yours doesn't appear to be.

How much does it weigh ?

What's the price ?
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 Posted 01/08/2021  6:21 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Adam590 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I haven't bought it. I want to buy one to replace the one I had (much more wear!) that was stolen ten years ago. I am wondering if this is a good one that NGC would straight grade (if I were to buy it). I like the detail, but even the vendor (who is reputable, and based in Luxembourg) said he thinks it has been cleaned.
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 Posted 01/08/2021  7:14 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add gxseries to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The way I see when cleaned coins is, if you know the particular coin / token that you are chasing haven't been in the market for a while - I personally would purchase it and upgrade it when the opportunity arises.

I've got a few coins in my collection that are cleaned / damaged and haven't come across a better example for more than a decade!
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 Posted 01/13/2021  02:49 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Princetane to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Cleaned or not, what a beautiful piece and exceptional design. That sun has a lot of character.

Easily EF or even a bit better!
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I am with gxseries. If that token were on my target list, I would buy it in a heartbeat.

But I don't submit my coins for grading, and don't care about re-sale value, and everyone needs to weight those things according to their own circumstances.
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thats a stunning coin
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I see a few more on ebay as well , cool coin may have to get one at some point
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