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Melting Canadian Copper And Nickel Bullion Coins

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 Posted 12/12/2008  02:30 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Coinage to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Hi,

I had a question about Canadian Pennies and Nickels.

Do recyclers take copper pennies that are from 1996 and older with 98% copper content... and/or Canadian Nickel that are from 1981 and older with 99.9% Nickel.

If this question has been posted, could you link me up.

Thanks for your replies.

James.
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 Posted 12/12/2008  07:59 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SsuperDdave to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Such actions appear to be a violation of Canada's Criminal Code. Look for Para 456.

http://everything2.com/e2node/Crimi...2520Currency
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 Posted 12/12/2008  08:14 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinage to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
That was very informative SuperDave, thanks.

It doesn't make sense because if I own bullion, I should be able to do whatever I want with it. If I bought a Maple Leaf Gold Coin, I should be able to melt it and make Jewelry or melt a bunch to make a gold bar if I want.

In the States you guys are allowed to deface coins... I was checking out those Penny Press machines; supposedly it's legal, but not here.
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 Posted 12/12/2008  08:48 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add nod2003 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Actually I believe those penny press machines are the exception to the rule.
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 Posted 12/12/2008  09:09 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Topher to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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Actually I believe those penny press machines are the exception to the rule.


All of the penny press machines I've seen up here use copper blanks, as it is still illegal to deface a Canadian penny.
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In the States you guys are allowed to deface coins... I was checking out those Penny Press machines; supposedly it's legal, but not here.

Defacement for the purpose of fraud is illegal in the US, whereas a Penny Press(aka elongated cent) is just a 51 cent souvenir I think in most countries with coinage featuring a royal effigy it is illegal for any type of defacement.
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You should be able to get copper and nickel scrap for cheap as metal prices pretty much plummet. Look for some copper wires.
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 Posted 12/15/2008  12:15 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add gawd0wns to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Melting coins is specifically addressed in the Currency Act (http://laws.justice.gc.ca/en/showdo...:s_2?page=2) - see below

A silver bullion maple is still considered currency. Aside from its bullion value it is assigned a denomination, in this case, silver maples have a face value of $5. Gold maples also have denominations, ranging from $10-$100 I think.



Current coins

7. (1) A coin is current for the amount of its denomination in the currency of Canada if it was issued under the authority of

(a) the Royal Canadian Mint Act; or

(b) the Crown in any province of Canada before it became part of Canada and if the coin was, immediately before October 15, 1952, current and legal tender in Canada.

Defaced coins not current
(2) No coin that is bent, mutilated or defaced, or that has been reduced in weight otherwise than by abrasion through ordinary use, shall pass current.

-The criminal code makes defacing coins an offence under sections 455 and 456.-


Melting down coins

11. (1) No person shall, except in accordance with a licence granted by the Minister, melt down, break up or use otherwise than as currency any coin that is current and legal tender in Canada.

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12/15/2008 12:35 am
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