1953 S Wheat Penny Mint Real Close To Date

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biker420 Valued Member United States 58 Posts	Posted 02/04/2021 2:19 pm got this in a roll today think the s mint mark is almost touching the date is that something they do or what is the deal with it so why is this Report this Post to the Staff

Scuba1 Valued Member United States 356 Posts	Posted 02/04/2021 2:33 pm Hello biker420. Mint marks were hand punched up until 1990 at which time they became an intricate part of the design during the making and manufacturing of the die (in layman's terms, and if I'm saying that correctly...) Mint marks prior to 1990 can be found in various positions and locations on the coin (obviously below the date) due to human error. This is a also how Repunched Mint Marks (RPM) were created, by a human error. I believe I read on this forum awhile ago about this same topic and I remember a comment made by a longtime member who said that unless the Mint Mark is actually touching the rim, date or lapel on a Lincoln Cent, it is not worth a premium. Still a cool find to see a MM noticeably out of its "normal" position. Report this Post to the Staff
Coinfrog Bedrock of the Community United States 94367 Posts	Posted 02/04/2021 2:40 pm That summarizes it well. Report this Post to the Staff
John1 Moderator United States 56855 Posts	Posted 02/04/2021 3:44 pm biker420, Please work on taking/posting better photos...thanks. The better the photos,the better we can help. John1 Report this Post to the Staff
sheldius Pillar of the Community United States 1204 Posts	Posted 02/04/2021 4:36 pm Hard to see if the mint mark actually touches the date. Those are the only ones that are more interesting. Or if its in the coat or rim or something. Report this Post to the Staff
coop Bedrock of the Community United States 62064 Posts	Posted 02/04/2021 6:53 pm There is a 'S' RPM similar to that: Different die states of the RPM under that image. Report this Post to the Staff
merclover Bedrock of the Community United States 10635 Posts	Posted 02/04/2021 7:08 pm biker420, I agree with John1, your photography needs help. The main issue is sharpness, or lack thereof. You aren't trying to hold your coins, are you? If so, lay them flat of a hard surface and shoot them from above. Focus is your main issue. We need sharp photos to see clearly all the fine details coins, especially error coins have so we can address them. Practice working on your focus, and you'll be producing excellent coin photos in no time! Report this Post to the Staff
biker420 Valued Member United States 58 Posts	Posted 02/08/2021 7:09 pm I'm just using a 99 dollar phone from wal mart but I will try harder thanks guys Report this Post to the Staff
infotekkie New Member United States 6 Posts	Posted 10/12/2023 5:53 pm Scabu1. Wouldn't the term "Punched" imply being indented versus being raised which the mint marks clearly are? These appear to be part of the original alloy. Could you explain how that works? I am a new person to this forum and new/just returning and getting re-educated on this hobby. Lots changed since I last did this in the 80's Report this Post to the Staff
Dearborn Moderator United States 94992 Posts	Posted 10/12/2023 7:20 pm While this is a very old topic, infotekkie, you bring up a great question. Now, yes, the MM was 'punched' into the die, making an impression of it. Then when the die hits the planchet, the metal will fill the 'hole' created by the punch and creating a raised MM on a coin. oh yeah, to CCF Collecting since 1972. Learning from then on "Tell me and I forget. Teach me and I remember. Involve me and I learn." - Benjamin Franklin 7070 type set coin count: 51/76 Uncirculated American Silver Eagles My American Silver Eagle Proof Collection Sacagawea Dollars Innovation Dollars Eisenhower-Dollars Kennedy-Half Dollars Washington-Quarters Roosevelt-Dimes Buffalo-Nickels 1938-2005 Jefferson-Nickels Lincoln-Cents Edited by Dearborn 10/12/2023 9:02 pm Report this Post to the Staff
Errers and Varietys Bedrock of the Community United States 73775 Posts	Posted 10/12/2023 7:38 pm To CCF infotekkie! Dearborn is spot on with his answer. Errers and Varietys. Report this Post to the Staff
infotekkie New Member United States 6 Posts	Posted 10/13/2023 12:09 am Dearborn, while this may sound good, I am missing something. Above Scuba1 says the mm is not always in same spot, how is this so? Is it because there are multiple dies used (one breaks, a new one is put in its place) thus the mm may be in a different location? My coin is close to what the original poster has, just slightly lower than the 19 and the 53. Please, excuse my question, but I come from a field where we analyze everything so I need the knowledge to understand and become better at this hobby. Thank you in advance. Report this Post to the Staff
Dearborn Moderator United States 94992 Posts	Posted 10/13/2023 07:36 am Yes, exactly. There are many working dies used to make all these coins, Back then all mint marks were hand placed by many different people. So the MM can show up in all sorts of locations - as long it is under the date area, it was acceptable. (just not physically touching the date) Each working die will have a MM punched in manually Collecting since 1972. Learning from then on "Tell me and I forget. Teach me and I remember. Involve me and I learn." - Benjamin Franklin 7070 type set coin count: 51/76 Uncirculated American Silver Eagles My American Silver Eagle Proof Collection Sacagawea Dollars Innovation Dollars Eisenhower-Dollars Kennedy-Half Dollars Washington-Quarters Roosevelt-Dimes Buffalo-Nickels 1938-2005 Jefferson-Nickels Lincoln-Cents Edited by Dearborn 10/13/2023 07:47 am Report this Post to the Staff
Dearborn Moderator United States 94992 Posts	Posted 10/13/2023 07:45 am Quote: This photo, courtesy of Error Trends Coin Magazine (ETCM) and Arnold Margolis, shows a Mint engraver getting ready to punch a mint mark into a working die. The working die is held in a vise. His right hand is positioning the mint mark punch and the mallet that he will use to tap the mint mark punch into the die is being held in his left hand. https://doubleddie.com/58243.html#:...%20the%20die. Collecting since 1972. Learning from then on "Tell me and I forget. Teach me and I remember. Involve me and I learn." - Benjamin Franklin 7070 type set coin count: 51/76 Uncirculated American Silver Eagles My American Silver Eagle Proof Collection Sacagawea Dollars Innovation Dollars Eisenhower-Dollars Kennedy-Half Dollars Washington-Quarters Roosevelt-Dimes Buffalo-Nickels 1938-2005 Jefferson-Nickels Lincoln-Cents Report this Post to the Staff
Dearborn Moderator United States 94992 Posts	Posted 10/13/2023 08:28 am Ok, here's a great example of how many MM's were applied to a single dated cent (1960 in this case from Denver) and these were all errors too - 113 of them, then there were the uncounted ones that were applied correctly. Check out Variety Vista RPM listings for this year (1960-D) RPM stands for Re-Punched Mint Mark http://varietyvista.com/02b%20LC%20...20(1-60).htm and http://varietyvista.com/02b%20LC%20...(61-113).htm Collecting since 1972. Learning from then on "Tell me and I forget. Teach me and I remember. Involve me and I learn." - Benjamin Franklin 7070 type set coin count: 51/76 Uncirculated American Silver Eagles My American Silver Eagle Proof Collection Sacagawea Dollars Innovation Dollars Eisenhower-Dollars Kennedy-Half Dollars Washington-Quarters Roosevelt-Dimes Buffalo-Nickels 1938-2005 Jefferson-Nickels Lincoln-Cents Report this Post to the Staff
Coinfrog Bedrock of the Community United States 94367 Posts	Posted 10/13/2023 08:38 am Lots of good stuff, Dearborn - thanks! Report this Post to the Staff
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