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Good day all. I have found numerous Steelies with these types of bumps in a larger recent purchase. I'm alittle leary to guess what caused the errors. Also, do these errors demand a higher cost than reguliar Steel Pennies? Thank you.   |
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Bedrock of the Community
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Well the coin was re-processed, so that is a big negative for it. What happened on the obverse, I don't know. Never seen this before. The reverse looks like a folded staple. (Can't be though)
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02/05/2021 6:19 pm
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Yes definately reprocessed. All 52 coins that I have found so far out of 1,000 have these issues only on one side. Some obverse and some reverse but never both sides.   Edited by sccollector
02/05/2021 6:46 pm
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Pillar of the Community
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Here is an idea, it could have been struck-thru a staple, or could be a series of die gouges, either way they look like a mint error to me.
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I`m 99% sure these are actual error strikes as there is no evidence that metal was added under 40X magnification. In theory, it would seem that it looks like there had to be some form of damage to the die to create raised bumps in this fashion. There is no real specific pattern, but the style of error is the same. I have spent a week now searching many different catalogs of error coins and error dates, but still cannot place when this particuliar event happened or how.
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@scc, they don't really look like die gouges. Of the 52, do any of them have the bumps in exactly the same location?
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No. They do not all match up to the same location. It`s sporadic in positions, sizes etc. But all seem to have a common theme about them as far as appearance or type of error. Wish I could tell you more. Most of them are smaller in size than the ones I posted. One more pic for a panoramic view persay.  Edited by sccollector
02/05/2021 9:44 pm
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Maybe something applied to the coin before plating to make it look like errors  |
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These are not re-plated. They are repurposed, meaning the old black zinc is removed and they are raw steel. Very shiny and super cleaned. But the more I look at these, I have noticed that the coin imprint exhists regardless of the protrusions. Could these have been defective planchets before strike?
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Fascinating. I've gone through a few thousand steel cents and this is new for me. Anyone google for steel cent errors or damage and see a similar issue?
These cents are approaching 80 years old--and this is the first discovery of this nature? Fascinating. I'm thinking plating process boo-boo or artifact at this stage.
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This is definitely some PMD. Maybe something from electrolysis. Maybe from the wires or whatever they clipped on the coin. Theres no telling what but its damage. Someone's science experiment Edited by Kloccwork419
02/05/2021 10:04 pm
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I`m not quite sure, but I would think if they were hit with electric, that would cause such PMD, wouldn`t that leave intrusions instead of extrusions? Sorry, not a welder. Lol Last pic umless you would like more. I just took this pic with a real uncirculated Steel on left and a repurposed on right with error to show better condition. I`m not questioning wether or not these were stripped of the blackend zinc and are raw metal. The issue is the error itself.  Edited by sccollector
02/05/2021 10:37 pm
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These are not re-plated. They are repurposed, meaning the old black zinc is removed and they are raw steel. Very shiny and super cleaned. Raw steel? From a CoinWeek article: Reprocessing: This alteration involves the removal of the thin layer of zinc from the steel and then re-plating the result. Because the plating has been re-added well after the original striking of the coin, a lot of the small details like die flow lines and luster are lost. https://coinweek.com/counterfeits/c...0are%20lost. |
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For one thing, yes, they're plated. For another, this has to be PMD. I can't imagine a way that 52 of these managed to go undetected for 78 years, then all got reprocessed at the same time and sold in the same lot. I don't know what caused it, but I imagine it has to be an artifact of the processing. Perhaps something like solder got onto the coin and then plated over? Just guessing. Additionally, if this was a real error, the protruding features would have to be caused by a die problem. The fact that none of them match up effectively rules that out. Edited by Numisma
02/05/2021 10:42 pm
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I understand your clarification and thank you. Let me assure you that these pennies are not re-plated. They are simply Steels that were stripped of the Blackend Zinc, and then polished in a fashion. The term "bare or naked Steel" would be a more direct description.
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Raw steel cents would begin rusting almost immediately. They are most definitely re-plated.
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