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A nice doubled die showing a strong extra eyelid south with a bit of doubling under the TY of LIEBERY as well. I am hoping that this coin can clear up at least a little bit of confusion. For years it has been presumed that WDDO-001 and WDDO-003 are actually the same die. But while these are common in lower grades, they are fairly scarce in higher grades where all the markers can be seen. So, the marker for WDDO-001 is a vertical die scratch along the left side of the E in WE. This one has that. The marker for WDDO-003 is WRPM-005. This one has that. Seems like a very good case that they are the same die as one coin has both markers beyond a doubt. Now as the die state gets later, things get tougher, and VV only has a stage C example shown for DDO-002. The mint mark position matches perfectly as well as the doubling itself so I am quite certain that this is the correct cross reference. It is also 1DO-002. So this should be DDO-002, WDDO-001 & WDDO-003, 1DO-002. The mint mark is it's own trouble. VV does not list it as an RPM, Wexler lists it as WRPM-005, and CopperCoins de-listed it and is calling it slide MD. Personally I am unsure, but it is pretty much on every example of this DDO whatever it is. 1927-D/D Lincoln Wheat cent doubled die - DDO-002, WRPM-005       |
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Potentially a bit of a Rosetta Stone coin--nice pick-up @tb! Quote:
The mint mark is it's own trouble. Yes I agree. I wouldn't think that MD would be on all examples, but it is a bit different looking than most RPMs I have seen in that both are about equally strong. "If you climb a good tree, you get a push."
-----Ghanaian proverb
"The danger we all now face is distinguishing between what is authentic and what is performed."
-----King Adz
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Interesting info and another nice find!
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Is that MD on the inside of the MM too? Never saw it in different directions before. Looks like an RPM on your coin but other listed it looks like MD. At least its a DDO for sure |
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I checked my best example and it doesn't have any of the 001 markers. I had thought my example of this die had some legs to stand on for being a rpm so I started a thread on it over at LCF. Instead of bolstering it as a rpm it confirmed it was not. Here is a link to that thread. http://www.lincolncentforum.com/for...t=1927-d+ddoScroll through to Dan's example and you will see that his coin shows no evidence of the rpm/machine doubling. My guess is that Wexlers 001 example had no Machine Doubling and he missed the TY doubling because of that. |
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Well on your coin, there is not Machine Doubling present on the date. Yours looks like an earlier die state, so the machine may not have been loose at that time. |
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Very nice looking coin and in great shape for a very OLD Wheat cent. Congrats TB. Edited by Daves Errors
02/07/2021 2:55 pm
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Thanks all! This has been interesting. I don't know how many people have these, but would be an interesting topic just to have everyone post theirs and compare all the markers and D doubling and all that.
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Bedrock of the Community
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On the 'WE' do you see the doubling on that device? That is common to see this on many years of Lincoln cents.  It is master hub doubling. (thus it appears on several years. 1909-1959) If the dies are heavily polished it can be missing. But no premium for this as it is common. |
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Here is the mintmark on my best one.  |
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Bedrock of the Community
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Does the date show the same direction? Or is it like bats with the date un-affected?
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Pillar of the Community
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Two close-ups of the mm on the coin posted. Note the bit of a vertical/curving line inside the D.   |
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Coin posted is a pretty early die state and good to see things, but here is a late die state version of the same mm.  |
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Here is the date shot of mine.  |
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Very cool! A strong variety and a nice coin.
-CH27
Collector of U.S. Coins, Varieties, and Colonial Coinage
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Posted 02/07/2021 08:37 am
