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Just received a few tokens. Would appreciate your thoughts on grade/variety (if applicable) I would estimate a VF 30? There looks to be doubling on most letters/numbers, canada is the most pronouced. Not sure if this carries a premium or not (part of a bulk purchase and trying to value coins). Tokens are a new area for me, but pretty interesting, there is so many permutations. As always, your thoughts are always appreciated. On a side note, any recommended resources for tokens? I have looked through coinsandcanada and it seems like a great start, but not sure if there is an equivalent like charelton's or not.    Edited by purelywasted
02/11/2021 4:35 pm
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I think much better than VF-20. Nice coin
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I have both of these, lots of good info   |
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Some of the doubling looks like MD or shelf doubling to me. I would grade it EF40.
Co # 082 R1, possibly Co # 083 R9.
Hopefully @ainsivalavie can confirm.
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02/11/2021 9:20 pm
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Thanks for your comments so far. @Wade, thanks I have Haxby, will pop into library to take a gander and charelton and probably end up buying. I found a pdf of Courteau 1934. I am assuming copyright is out. https://nassaumills.ca/wp-content/u...nada1934.pdf @Okie & 1960NYGiants, thanks for your thoughts on grades. I am still at a loss, but that is the fun part of learning something new. Where would the line be in #083, I think I can see something faint along the top edge of the sword heading towards the rope, but it could be light reflecting/grime/angle wishful thinking/no idea what I am talking about. |
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I'd say well into EF. There some rare on the highest points of the crown (the little fleurs-de-lis for example), the cross-hatching on the pineapples and on St. George's right hand. But a tremendous amount of detail has been quite nicely preserved. No obvious mint frost so I think not AU . Certainly a great deal of eye appeal whatever number you settle on.
I think these coins are under-rated personally. They aren't all that rare but they're one case where there is an equal amount of detail on the obverse and reverse. I also like the balance of intricate design and open space. It's just really well done.
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there's a nice little die crack up to the N in CANADA if you're in to that sort of thing. Not sure how rare that is.....
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@purelywasted - thanks for the link to the pdf.
Both Courteau and @ainsivalavie mention the the line but no photo or line drawing as to where/what it looks like. The die cracks at B of Bank and C of Canada are the markers for #82. #83 has the same obverse but with the line at sword comment for the reverse. #82 is very common (R1) but #83 is rare (R9).
Can you post a large photo of the end of the sword and rope detail?
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It would be nice to have more clarity on what this line looks like.Along the top of the sword there seems to be a bit of line, or could just be some doubling. It looks like there is a bit of a line that follows along the rope The tip of the sword looks like is has a minor hit on the RHS, at first I thought it was some kind of bulge.  This was taken from a different angle and the detials are pretty much lost in the shadows. There seems to be a bit of the doubling along that end of the sward as well.  It looks like there is some green stuff growing, so I am going to soak in some verdicare for a bit and that might clean out some of the gunk. as well. A fun intro to tokens for me. Thanks for your thoughts so far. |
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Co # 082 R1, possibly Co # 083 R9.
Hopefully @ainsivalavie can confirm. Sorry for the delay, I've been a bit busy in recent months. So, this is the Courteau #082 variety. The easiest way to confirm this is that there are a few die cracks on the obverse, whereas the obverse of Courteau #083 does not have any according to Courteau. However, I would like to make a clarification here. I have never been able to observe the Courteau #083 variety to date. And to tell the truth, I don't know anyone who has been able to find this variety either. So if anyone thinks they have this one, please post pictures, there are many of us who are interested in seeing what this one looks like. I'm sorry if my English isn't perfect... I'm learning a little more every day.
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08/15/2021 07:38 am
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