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Hi, today I look for 1973 dime and nickel in UNC to full fill in collection. through 5 custom sets I find this dime which I am not sure if it is D/D and die damage. Please your opinion. 3 from 1973  7 from 1973  D from CANADA  Thanks |
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a pic of the whole coin ple ASE |
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My camera do not work (I wait for the battery and cable). So I took those with the microscope at 20x. Sorry for the inconvenient.   |
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Tough to tell from the pics, but owing to the 'stepped' effect being all around the devices, I would say that this is Die Deterioration Doubling (no premium). |
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Thanks, I do not look for premium, just fulfill a missing UNC year with the best I have. Been die deteriorated I will consider this one for. who will come after my past maybe will appreciate.
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silviosi your coin is a DDR. also your coin have frosted proofing added. to make it proof like uncirculated. here is and image of my coin these match. mine is DDR with lite frosted proofing as well. here is the image  |
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silviosi yes you are right. I see part of the 3 is missing from the top strike. then the mint frosted over the damage digit . one thing that great proof right from the mint. you have a great one
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The 1973 dime the OP has and the 1973 Rocky has shown are not DDR's, what both of you are seeing is Machine Doubling. Rocky, you should know how to tell by now, flat shelf-like with no splits or notching = Machine Doubling. To answer the OP's question though, there is a known Doubled Die for 1973 but its not on the Reverse, it's on the Obverse. Finding and discovering modern Canadian doubled die varieties since 2018. 2023 Recent Publications: Modern Canadian Doubled Die Varieties - First Edition PDF & Paperback https://www.mcddv.ca (website currently down for maintenance as of 08/01/2024) |
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Hello, thanks, very nicest answers, appreciate.
I agree with all. And now my point which it is not the coins premium, because in collecting not only the value account.
According by NGC in theirs's definition's: MD :quote "If the die is not properly seated, it can move slightly or bounce during the moment of striking, creating a flat, shelf-like doubling. This effect will be different on all coins struck, so it is technically not a variety, but rather more of a striking error." and the DD: "is a clear separation between the serifs on all the letters. This proves that the doubling was created during the hubbing process rather than during the striking of the actual coin." end of quote.
So if all the sets have this error, mean that only 0.29% of strike coins are like this. Maybe it is not a variety, but still be an error.
Even the Ricky coin and mine show a line difference from the strike and not a flat doubling,
I will send to NGC and mention to analyze and answer.
Thanks, what you things?
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silviosi these coins are pressed at 125M. they are not struck on a knuckle head press these are hydraulically pressed coins. these coins are DDR . |
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thanks, so for me is OK to pay certification because I want to have also some like this.
I have a new post, what you thing?
silvio
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silviosi here is a simple fact. the Royal Canadian Mint in Ottawa double presses. every coin from a prooflike set to proofs sets. also they will press them as many as 10 times. if they don't get the desired appearance on the surface of the coin. they have a video on this as well . stating these facts on youtube. |
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Rocky, they are not DDR's, you also shouldn't be encouraging somewhat of a newcomer to attempt to certify something like this and waste money by trying to get a grading company to attribute it, which they won't. Admins can correct me if I'm wrong, but misleading readers is something we don't do here... 1973 Canadian Dimes had a LOT of Machine Doubling that year and the only known doubled die for that year and denomination is on the OBVERSE side of the coin. Finding and discovering modern Canadian doubled die varieties since 2018. 2023 Recent Publications: Modern Canadian Doubled Die Varieties - First Edition PDF & Paperback https://www.mcddv.ca (website currently down for maintenance as of 08/01/2024) |
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I agrees with you Rocky about the way RCM do theirs proof like and proof coins. RCM is one of the most recognized quality coins producer in the word.( My friends from all over the word ask me to buy for them and reserve in my account many of the new coins). My point was that it is a coin which past over the average coins at this state. Been DD or MD the discussion can go years due to different points of views, no problem with. This coin I will put in collection with the mention : To be follow. 2. The die. Back in 1973 I do not think so that RCM have 'it dies iridium powdered or iridium alloy, so the material was much more less resistant to shocks and heat deformations, so the coins are more to have some irregularities; so coins like this must be less and be a part of a sub-categories, not really values ,but more a last strike or something like this. In stamps and note collecting we say later printing. 3. Like a pillar of community maybe you can find the topic with yellowish the proof coins, I have the answer. It is IrCl3 oxide. Thanks, I really enjoy and appreciate your collaboration and more, any opinion teach me something.( 26 years of schools, 61 years old and I have more to learn, THANKS) |
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