2009 American Silver Eagle / ASE : Collar Clash Affecting The Edge?

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Numisma Pillar of the Community United States 4963 Posts	Posted 03/17/2021 03:08 am This coin has some sort of raised, stepped fill between the reeds. The feature spans about 145 degrees of the edge and is centered around the L in LIBERTY, facing the obverse. My best guess is that a series of collar clashes damaged the collar in that area. I don't see anything on the rim, but perhaps the dies were replaced? The MAD direction doesn't line up with what I'm seeing. Thanks for your input. Has this been seen on bullion coins before? Report this Post to the Staff

John1 Moderator United States 56855 Posts	Posted 03/17/2021 04:26 am Very nice pics, what are you using? John1 Report this Post to the Staff
chafemasterj Pillar of the Community United States 6514 Posts	Posted 03/17/2021 08:10 am I agree. Phenomenal pictures. Also, I don't see error you are referring to. Check out my counterstamped Lincoln Cent collection: http://goccf.com/t/303507 Report this Post to the Staff
Dearborn Moderator United States 96315 Posts	Posted 03/17/2021 08:31 am Quote: I don't see error you are referring to. Here, I think he is looking at this... GREAT pictures.. the extreme close up makes it look like machinery gears.. Collecting since 1972. Learning from then on "Tell me and I forget. Teach me and I remember. Involve me and I learn." - Benjamin Franklin 7070 type set coin count: 51/76 Uncirculated American Silver Eagles My American Silver Eagle Proof Collection Sacagawea Dollars Innovation Dollars Eisenhower-Dollars Kennedy-Half Dollars Washington-Quarters Roosevelt-Dimes Buffalo-Nickels 1938-2005 Jefferson-Nickels Lincoln-Cents Edited by Dearborn 03/17/2021 5:56 pm Report this Post to the Staff
coop Bedrock of the Community United States 62064 Posts	Posted 03/17/2021 10:28 am Possible chipping on the collar, or a die damaged the collar with contact on that area perhaps from a misaligned die? Thus the depth is not as strong on that area. I've never heard of this before, but it doesn't mean it couldn't happen. Die attrition is caused by the die rubbing on the collar and removing part of the outside edge of the die: People have not mentioned this issue before, but it is all possible. Report this Post to the Staff
Yokozuna Pillar of the Community United States 4618 Posts	Posted 03/17/2021 10:50 am Is it possible that the coin was too high or low in the collar? The reeding that's connected at the limit of the edge may have resulted from the coin being close to a partial collar strike. Just a guess. ANA ID: 3203813 - CONECA ID: N-5637 Clean a coin that may be worth collecting? Please DON'T! When in doubt, leave it dirty!! Report this Post to the Staff
Numisma Pillar of the Community United States 4963 Posts	Posted 03/17/2021 1:38 pm Thanks for the input! I'm liking your idea, Coop. Quote: Very nice pics, what are you using? I'm just holding a loupe up to my iPhone camera. Definitely good for closeups, but I haven't quite managed to get clear pictures of full coins. Quote: Here I think he is looking at this... Yes. Sorry for not pointing that out. Quote: Is it possible that the coin was too high or low in the collar? The reeding that's connected at the limit of the edge may have resulted from the coin being close to a partial collar strike. Just a guess. Maybe. I think that would make sense given the sloped area right at the edge- perhaps that could be the "beveled entrance to the collar" that Coop mentioned. Edited by Numisma 03/17/2021 1:43 pm Report this Post to the Staff
coop Bedrock of the Community United States 62064 Posts	Posted 03/17/2021 1:44 pm Sometimes I think so far out of the box, I realize, I'm not in the box! Report this Post to the Staff
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2009 ASE: Collar Clash Affecting The Edge?