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What Terms Are Allowed For Listing An Items Condition And What Are Not?

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 Posted 03/27/2021  7:16 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add youngmaster to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
There was a mention on when posting an item that it cant have grade unless its been graded by a third party is that right? Also if thats true what is acceptable for describing the condition of the coin. Thank u...
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 Posted 03/27/2021  7:47 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Collects82 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
For raw coins that are not slabbed with the approved TPGs like PCGS, NGC, ANACS, you can just post good and honest pictures and let the bidders make their own determination. If there are details notes not apparent in the photos like a cleaning, maybe you can be transparent there.
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03/27/2021 7:48 pm
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I include that I am aiming to post ungraded as I dont plan on going through the process of grading just yet. Though it would be nice to see it happen for experience. So I ask with the idea for only ungraded examples what is a good way to mention the quality and condition of a coin. That is still acceptable and not frown upon. I fear that its not accepted in any way to say the condition of a coin and to simply refer them to the pictures. I hope this message isn't too back and forth. Thanks
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 Posted 03/28/2021  07:41 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add JimmyD to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I take it you are referring to listing on ebay. You cannot put a numerical grade on a raw coin but you
can still put on a general grade such as AU or VF. This is acceptable under ebay policy.
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 Posted 03/28/2021  07:51 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ijn1944 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Suggest you commit yourself to posting the best possible photos of the coin(s) you intend to sell--obverse and reverse, and any particular detail you choose to spotlight. Allow the images to sell the coin--they are part of the official description. Sharp, properly lit, accurate white balance photos are key.
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 Posted 03/28/2021  07:59 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add silverwolf to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
as mentioned by others, pictures are key, good clear photos.. In the description box, just say for example,

You are bidding on the exact coin in the photos, it is a 1938 D Walking Liberty half dollar, See all photos for condition..

Don't say anything else about how you feel about the coin..
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 Posted 03/28/2021  12:21 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add KenKat to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Along the lines of what JimmyD said, I will see a lot of sellers use general terms like Good, Very Good, Fine or even more general terms like high grade or BU which are all ok u see ebay's rules.
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 Posted 03/29/2021  02:13 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add youngmaster to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Awesome feedback truly... I think if I could summarize it. The pictures will show what they are buying and I can include a general condition of the coin. Now as for cleaning should I ask around on how to. I dont like the idea plus I hate to say this but am I wrong to think cleaning diminishes the value of the coins. Kinda like repairing an antique with modern parts... I feel like this is an important one. Do I create a new post for this one? What do u think? I saw this one coin shop owner and he cleans them and I dont know it feels like maybe this is ok to protect the integrity of the coin. I dont know this ones a tough one for me and have struggled with.
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03/29/2021 02:16 am
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Cleaning generally will greatly diminish the value of the coin, so don't do it is a good rule. If you are selling a coin that is obviously cleaned, I would probably mention that. For lightly cleaned and/or re-toned coins, I'd let the pictures do the talking.

Not sure what that coin cleaning dealer was doing. Some heavily toned coins can be "dipped" to remove the toning and in general is not considered cleaning. However, you can easily destroy a coin's eye appeal if you don't know what you are doing with this process.
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 Posted 03/29/2021  1:14 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add youngmaster to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
So dipping what is that? It might have been that. Is that not cleaning? Also if u dip a coin does that mean u post that it has been dipped.
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Strongly suggest you do not attempt to clean coins you sell. If you do clean a particular coin, you should disclose that--right up front. It's a matter of ethical behavior.
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I am going to give you some really good advice .
You are asking all kinds of questions on the forum
which is good and bad . I have read all your posts
concerning trying to sell on ebay,online in general
or wherever .
Spend some money on the following .
Buy a " Red Book" , a book on business , " ebay for Dummies "
( I think it is still available ) . After you have read all cover to cover
You will be armed with plenty of thoughts and ideas .
I have been a coin dealer going on 45 years and still learn new
Tricks of the Trade every day . It is imperative that you start doing
a lot of your own research if you are going to be successful .
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 Posted 03/29/2021  2:16 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add KenKat to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Here's a good, brief article on dipping:

https://www.NGCcoin.com/news/article/2831/dipping/

In general, you wouldn't dip a lower grade circulated coin as it will look unnatural with no toning but a lot of wear in my opinion. Dipping is not really considered cleaning and you typically would not state that a coin was dipped but again let the pictures speak.
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03/29/2021 2:19 pm
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 Posted 03/30/2021  02:17 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add youngmaster to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Well this was very great feedback and that will be taken seriously. I aim to be honest as I embark on what it is to be good and knowledgeable numismatist and creator of things related maybe since I want to contribute back. But I wont get ahead of myself as I am getting into the groove of things barely. U were all awesome! Thanks. Is there a direct messaging system on this place? or just emailing.
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