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1873 Newfoundland 20 Cent.heart Is Breaking Over This One!

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 Posted 04/03/2021  09:39 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Silver101 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Look at this - the 1873 is a relatively tough one and this would have been a nice one. But, ye gods, someone's gone at it with a brillo pad..... someone needs to just melt it.


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 Posted 04/03/2021  09:45 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Spence to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Yes a real pity.

At least in the States, whizzing of coins to "improve" them seems to have been quite popular in the 1950s and 1960s.
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 Posted 04/03/2021  09:58 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
That's a shame for sure.
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Ouch! That would have been a nice one.

Like @Spence said, the "coin improving" era left a lot of wreckage. I remember hearing people instruct new collectors to use a pencil eraser to clean copper coins and advising use of baking soda to clean silver coins. That poor Twenty Cent suffered a harsh fate. Some of its wounds are pretty deep.
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There's some nice detail there - it would easily make VF-30, maybe higher. the braid is in decent shape, the eye, some of the detail is there in the hair and the rims are stellar. But then there's this scorched earth across all of the surfaces... it would be interesting to have a look at that surface under some serious magnification and figure out how deep the scars go. There might even be residue of the cleaning material....
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Still be a nice coin. some defaults also. A close look at the last "N" from Foundland. I question why the lines are all parallels and go between the letters without touching them? Could be a bad polish hammer and anvil die?
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Some of the letters are affected by the lines so it is not a matter of die polishing.
It appears as though most of the wear on the coin occurred after the damage, there are light to no lines through the worn areas.
Whatever happened to this coin likely happened a very long time ago, when the coin was still worth only 20cents and no one conceived it could one day be collectible.

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someone needs to just melt it.
I'd pay more than double melt for every coin like this..
It's still a scarce coin in a technically high grade, probbly worth about a hundred bucks.
"Dipping" is not considered cleaning...
-from PCGS website
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@DBM let go joint association. I pay half and you half to buy those melting coins.
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It hurts my eyes to look at!
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@TheDeductible. You tell me this? I payed 200 US for a broke dish. I was to an estate auction and was a box with broke glass and porcelain. My wife was mad to pay 200 bucks for. Inside at first view I recognized a broke dish see only in the books. Nader Person Museum in London do not has. When restriction go out, I will brink to Ottawa for restoration, but my heart still be broke to see those fragments.

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