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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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okiecoiner why are some of the penny from 1859 to 1920 painted. the white paint is like ivory color. this is very nice color. but some of the coins are painted black. that black nothing will take it off. alot of these coins look like brass. believe me its only painted on the surface of these coins. why were some of these coins painted.
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Pillar of the Community
 Canada
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There were no "painted" large cent coins. Without looking at what you think you are seeing, I have no idea what you are talking about. And the coins are bronze, not brass, regardless what you think the apparent color is. I think that you must have the lighting and magnification up way too high, like other coins that you have mentioned on here.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Pillar of the Community
 Canada
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i will put up some photos later. I will show you what I am finding on these coins.
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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I have a couple painted large cent but I think it was an experiment or someone just painted over them maybe for jewelry not the mint
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Pillar of the Community
United States
666 Posts |
I have an enameled 1908 Encased Cent. I do not believe that it was done by or for the RCM.
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Pillar of the Community
 Canada
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here is one painted brass color. 
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Pillar of the Community
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here is a full image 
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Pillar of the Community
United States
666 Posts |
That is not paint. It is dirty and toned. The brass colour is also not paint rather it is from cleaning, rubbing or wear that is quite recent.
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Pillar of the Community
 Canada
2784 Posts |
here is what the wrap looks like around the letters. to put that on a coin would be very difficult. 
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Pillar of the Community
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1960NYGiants it looks like paint. the black is impossible to remove.
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Pillar of the Community
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It is not paint. It is just surface chemical reaction with something that has come in contact with the bronze at some time in its life. The "wrap-around" that you talk about on the letters is just more of the same thing, but concentrated into the nooks and crannies where normal handling or cleaning can't touch. Also, some of what you are seeing in the "wrap" is some Die Deterioration so that the numbers or letters aren't crisp and appear to be "melting" at the base. That's not paint or "build-up"; it's how a die that was well-worn was striking the coin. If you look at any Vicky, ED or George large cent that has seen circulation, you will see "gunk" that has collected there in those tight spots. Most collectors call it "Vicky gunk" and it is a mixture of human body oil, dirt, grit, and remnants of whatever was on the hands of anyone who handled it for 50-60 years. Just a person's sweat is alkali enough to change the color of bronze or silver. Just go through hundreds of posts on here to hear people talking about removing the gunk with toothpicks, hawthorn thorns, rose thorns or stiff toothbrushes. As far as the discolorations, now you see why large cent collectors have pondered about cleaning coins or not and what can be used to remove it.
Edited by okiecoiner 04/16/2021 08:33 am
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Pillar of the Community
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okiecoiner thank you very much I agree with you. thank you for your support and sharing your knowledge. yes is there anyway to get rid of that gunk on the surface of these coins. okiecoiner my dad was the collector in the family. myself and all my bothers we would pick him up coins everywhere. the one thing he told us all never never clean a coin. thank you okiecoiner. I am in the third book of robs. okiecoiner I want to thank you for this info on these books. rob is incredible writer. the information it really help you to understand. the Vickie's penny and the importance's of how its all part of Canada and England. thank you all for your input.
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Pillar of the Community
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If you are already into the third of Rob's books, you are reading too fast. Read slowly so you understand what's going on. I helped where I could with Rob on his first 3, along with a couple other fellow collectors from an older coin site. In the intros to the books, he mentions and thanked those who helped him and all of them check into the CCF site from time to time. Yes, he is a good writer and an even better historian. Some of the dark staining on the early cents will not come off with anything, since it's a chemical reaction and not a paint or coating. Take a few old worthless coins and start trying things to remove evrything.
Edited by okiecoiner 04/16/2021 8:15 pm
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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A long soak in acetone is all I can suggest. Otherwise, this coin has aged into a most appealing mature color which should not be disturbed.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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I agree with @Coinfrog and @okiecoiner
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