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A Fun One For The Error Folks. (1974 Capped Die Strikes)

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Here is one for the error folks to do some heavier thinking...

These two coins are mint state, and obviously struck by the same capped reverse die. You can tell in some places, that cap is thin, and the hammer die elements are getting through the cap by indirect die transfer (in hand with light angles, trust me, these are both 1974). In other places, the cap is a bit mangled, and other elements are being struck onto the host planchet. That said, it does not necessarily mean these are consecutive strikes, there could have been a coin or two struck in-between these coins, we'll really never know.

The fun question is... which coin was struck first, and what are you basing your interpretation upon? Going to PCGS will give you high resolution images, but not the answer!

I'll let this thread run for a bit, before giving my interpretation. Lastly, I did have these mounted in a cool PCGS double slab, it presents really nicely!

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The aforementioned double slab.

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Very neat pair, thanks for sharing!


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which coin was struck first, and what are you basing your interpretation upon?


I'm not especially confident, but I'll go with the first since most of the details are mushier. I'm also seeing some die cap irregularities that appear to have progressed between the strikes (the lines off the beaver's nose and whatever's happening on the rim at 6:30).

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Top coin struck first. No doubt.
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Nice examples!
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I'm no expert but I think the bottom one was struck 1st because it has fewer transfers of "5 CENTS".
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Bottom one first - the small arc at the bottom of the reverse looks freshly made; on the top one, it's less noticeable and has been more flattened into the rest of the coin.
Slightly more detail in the CANADA/date impression.
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SN x321 was struck first (first coin).

The queen silhouette is more evident on the first coin. Just take a look below 5 and the S of CENTS. The queen crown is still evident. Not yet flattened.

Metal flow though the thinner cap extend farther on the second coin.
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for the answer IMO look at the beavers butt.....
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