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1909-P-VDB Proof - Do You See What I See?

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 Posted 05/08/2021  11:08 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add rwkiii to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
What do all of you think of this Lincoln? I'm so impressed with it. Is this just an MS66/MS66+, or is this a PF?

Also, what is the striping from on the obverse? It's virtually undisturbed on this coin. From rim to rim and through every letter/number.

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 Posted 05/08/2021  11:16 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Numisma to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
This is what we call a "woody." The "striping" occurs when the alloy isn't well mixed, so patches of tin- and zinc-rich metal get stretched out by the rollers to create a texture that resembles wood grain. It's very common on early Lincolns, but I like it.

Your coin looks to be a business strike. Beautiful piece!
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 Posted 05/08/2021  11:56 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Agree, not a proof. Major pic overload.



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 Posted 05/08/2021  12:24 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add GrapeCollects to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Not a proof
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It's a woody, too bad it's only on one side. I think I see very slight wear.

AU-58, maybe MS-63 is it has full, cartwheel luster under the brown.
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woodies can sometimes be tricky as it makes it difficult to see the real surfaces. MS63 maybe 64. I'm leaning more to 63
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Nice coin. Interesting, 'fine grain' woody appearance. I'd be good with AU58++. Hint of light wear, appears VDB took a hit. Sadly, not a proof.
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Nice woody. Something like AU58 or MS63.
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. Not a matte proof ,it is a business strike. Nice woody and a nice coin over all.
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Very nice looking Lincoln -
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, very nice woody AU-58++
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to the CCF thanks for posting good photos as well. I don't see this coin as a proof so with others here. As stated before a "woodie cent" these are desirable by many collectors, I see this one grading around mid to high AU. The woodie isn't appearing on both sides as well, so that isn't as desirable to a collectors, an improperly mixed alloy coin is interesting this may interest a subset of collectors as an only half or one sided woodie, I don't see many like it.

I'm not seeing any of the diagnostic markings that would lend any credence this is a proof coin.
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Not a proof, not a gem but a nice piece nonetheless. MS64BN is as high as I'd go.

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The edges alone don't appear square enough for a proof, plus it lacks a matte finish.
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 Posted 05/09/2021  09:25 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add rwkiii to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I wasn't even aware of an 'official' PROOF issue. Aren't many coins deemed as PROOF due to their quality - even if they are a BUSINESS strike?

For example, a thicker than usual planchet and a brand new die.

In that example I wouldn't expect a matt finish or other characteristics like that.

No way am I arguing or debating whether it's proof or not! ;)

Have never heard the term "woody" used in numismatics, but I understand that. It explains a couple of other coins I have where the surface puzzled me.

This Indian Head is also a "woody"?
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