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Pillar of the Community
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There is something funny about this coin  |
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Pillar of the Community
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I forget the exact cause for that raised ring, but it's common to LMCs during this time. I think it may be die wear.  |
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Bedrock of the Community
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Depends. If your talking about the die wear on the motto, that is common for coins in that area to show that affect. If your talking about the MAD (Mis-Aligned-Die) that also is common.  The obverse die is adjustable and is slightly out of the correct alignment. But this too is acceptable to the mint. If you check the reverse it will be normal. They are just an error it both OBV & REV off centering happens. |
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i found a second one but it is not as pronounced it dont look like a MAD
must be die wear
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Pillar of the Community
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The misaligned die and the die wear are two completely different things. The hump in the motto is the die wear. The thin rim on one edge and the thick rim on the other edge is the misaligned die. They are unrelated as to cause.
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Pillar of the Community
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is die wear considered an error?
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Pillar of the Community
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Die wear is considered a natural occurrence and nor an error. Hence, the 1955 "Poor Man's" double die is nothing more than a worn die and not even considered an error!
BJ Neff
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Pillar of the Community
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Thanks I am still gonna keep it  |
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"Die wear is considered a natural occurrence and nor an error"
By whom?
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Pillar of the Community
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well Mr Neff for one  |
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This is a error plain and simple. Wonder if Neff will give us a exact figure , if this "error" is so common?
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I am no pro but I agree totally with BJ Neff and Coppercoins. I have found numerous examples of these and through them back. John1  |
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i am still keeping it it was my first flaw find  |
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I suppose that when this form of Die Deterioration gets severe enough, it could be considered an error. At the very least, it's an error from the standpoint that it wasn't replaced in a timely fashion. This sort of deterioration can get so bad that it swallows up peripheral letters, markedly changing the appearance of the coin. I agree that ordinary die wear is not an error. However, there are some forms of die wear that are quite abnormal. I'm referring to such things as "die subsidence errors" and "soft die errors". These feature exaggerated, localized, and premature die deformation, which point to intrinsic flaws in the die metal. Error coin writer and researcher.
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yotie, I'm glade to see you used the word "flawed" and not "error" or "variety and it is your choice to keep whatever "you" think is keep-able,just my thoughts. John1 |
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Dies Age. That is just a fact. A few coins are made in the early die states, more in the mid die states and the largest portion of coins are made in late/very late die states. The ones to me that would be more desired would be the ones in the earlier die states. The have a better look to them and more sought out. Here is an example of what happens as a die wears. Note the loss of detail of the edges of the devices and the fields.  Eventually when they get to the very late die states they look like this.  We can all pick what we want to collect, but is always nice to see what is out there before we decide which ones to keep and which ones to toss back. |
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