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I noticed that a sufficient number of coins rated by PCGS, as well as NGC coins are rotated. As I was informed by one collector, this is due to a not very tight slack and the coin turns over time. Today I got a Barber dime 1897-O PCGS and when shaking it makes a sound of plastic rubbing and the coin flips very easily. Have you ever encountered such a problem ? |
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@slerk, I'm not super-knowledgeable about these things, but I think that the term is "rattler" and this was a known issue with older PCGS slabs.
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If the label is green and you have a rattler, you might have a desirable old Gen1 slab.
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This is the problem coin.  |
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United States
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Agree, not uncommon on older slabs.
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05/25/2021 09:09 am
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United States
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Not a lot of rim left on that coin to fill the space designed to hold a full rimmed dime.
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nfine makes a good point.
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I don't think it is a good point. They slab coins from all eras and from all over the world so they slab coins of varying thickness with a similar diameter to this coin. So why didn't they select an appropriate holder for this coin? When you pay good money for a service near enough isn't good enough and one size doesn't fit all.
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I see that I am not the only one with this problem. Is it highly prevalent in newer slabs?
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United States
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Is mine considered old? Your slab in the image is not an old slab. Quote:
Is it highly prevalent in newer slabs? No, it is not highly prevalent in newer slabs. But it can and does occur in all generations of slabs. |
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As a perfectionist, I am very concerned about this problem + I also have a damaged slab.
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I also have a damaged slab. The slab itself is in no way damaged. The internal fit was probably off by ~1mm or less. When you grade almost 300,000 coins per month, mistakes do happen. |
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I was talking about the damage on the reverse. It is quite small and does not look like a chip at all. But thank you for reassuring me, and this is just a minor flaw in the company.  |
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I've got quite a few older slabs and I've seen the coins can gradually rotate with handling, especially the 1st generation PCGS "rattler" slabs. I've found the coins can often be rotated back in place just by gently tapping a corner of the holder against the palm of your hand until they're positioned as you would like. I've seen coins mispositioned in newer slabs, but those are usually tight enough this little trick won't work.
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I was talking about the damage on the reverse. It is quite small and does not look like a chip at all. From the pic, to me that does look like a small chip in the stacking edge, which is not too unusual to see. The stacking edge is fairly thin and a bit prone to chipping with a lot of handling. |
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Posted 05/25/2021 07:27 am
