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I looked at all the the Details ones and my reaction on over half of them was "seriously? who cares". I think you'll do OK.
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I'll be watching a couple of those for sure.
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Quote: I think you'll do OK We'll see. If the sales figure is close to my original "investment" I will be pleased. Also, it is nice to see so many CCF members will follow this auction. Hope you will see something you like.
Edited by NumisEd 06/02/2021 12:10 pm
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Ed - With only a bit more than 48 hours to go, I'd think that at this point you're very pleased with the very active bidding so far on your lots. Sunday night several should attract frenzied bidding.
Good luck!
Steve
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Yes, so far so good. It is fun to see one of the coins being featured on the "hot list". On Monday I will make up the balance and see if I actually came out ahead or lost money.
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I hope you get some good return from these.
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Quote: I understand, and share your disappointment on several of these, especially those getting Detailed. But that disappointment is now in the past, so taking the current actual grades into account, please share your thoughts with us two weeks from now of the final results.
Steve Ed - I quoted myself from my comment two weeks ago. As I write this, only your Detailed Trade dollar is still open. 1. Taking the CURRENT NGC grades into account, your thoughts overall once that last coin is finished? My sense is that with possibly only one or two exceptions or so, you did quite well! 2. Yes, you were disappointed when in the past you received your coins back from NGC having trusted the seller(s) that these were problem free coins, only to see several were detailed, and possibly some grade lower than what you had been told. However, I'm guessing (and hoping) that several of the coins that sold tonight netted you more than you paid for them years ago. Please share your thoughts once all is complete, and you have time. Thanks. Steve
A day without fine wine and working on your coin collection is like a day without sunshine! My collecting "Pride & Joy" is my PCGS Registry Dansco 7070 Set: https://www.PCGS.com/setregistry/ty...edset/213996
Edited by Winesteven 06/13/2021 8:52 pm
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Let's give a preliminary verdict (the Trade dollar is still pending): 1) Overall, the final sales price on GC is about 80% of what I paid to acquire the coins. 2) Adding grading and listing fees, I recoupled about 70% of what I paid. 3) Higher valued coins such as Draped Bust (Half) Cents and Classic Cent did well, low value coins such as nickels, dimes and quarters were a disaster. For instance, a 1866 Shield nickel I bought for $95 sold for $22.67, netting me - GASP - $6.54! Clearly, in many cases I grossly overpaid. Especially so-called "problem free" coins obtained on ebay. Many ebay coins are simply marked up 100% and photographed in such a way as to hide scratches and other problems. Had I inspected each coin with a loupe and found the defects, I probably would have had to return 90+% of these coins. In short, novices should NEVER buy raw coins on ebay. Better go to a LCS and inspect the coins in-hand, or buy graded coins.
Edited by NumisEd 06/13/2021 9:04 pm
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OK, understood, but this main disappointment was recognized by you when the coins came back from NGC some time ago, and you learned from that. Call it "Tuition". But taking the true grade/condition into account, I still sense you did well, even though that's just a consolation overall.
Steve
A day without fine wine and working on your coin collection is like a day without sunshine! My collecting "Pride & Joy" is my PCGS Registry Dansco 7070 Set: https://www.PCGS.com/setregistry/ty...edset/213996
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Well, yes. I don't blame NGC for accurately grading these coins. Nor do I not blame the buyers for not overpaying. Moral of the Story: if you are going to spend thousands of dollars to put together an appealing 19th Century Type Set, stick with problem-free, graded coins by NGC or PCGS. And... DO NOT OVERPAY!
Edited by NumisEd 06/13/2021 9:30 pm
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NumisEd, considering you had these coins for very little time and you got many of them as details, you still did well. It wasn't a total loss and you made back 70% of what you paid.
I buy almost all my raw coins from a local coin shop and even checking each one, in 13 coins that I had graded 4 were details, I wasn't certain about 2 , but the other 2 I was pretty certain would grade straight, even the LCS owner was surprised. So don't fell bad it even happens to professionals
Edited by hfjacinto 06/13/2021 9:53 pm
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One more thing, I never put much thought into the TPG guarantee but after getting a coin that I didn't like the way it looked, NGC actually conserved my coin, so take that into consideration.
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Quote: NumisEd, considering you had these coins for very little and you got many of them as details, you still did well. What do you mean?
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Easy to look back and second guess, and while many collectors make out well in buying raw coins and then getting them graded by the top two TPG's, there's a case to be made for buying coins already in slabs: 1. Virtually no risk in ending up with a counterfeit coin. 2. No risk in ending up with a "Detailed" coin. 3. Very little risk in ending up with a coin that's truly lower graded than the supposed grade of the raw coin. 4. Having the coin in a slab minimizes or eliminates the risk of accidentally causing damage handling the coin, especially if you place the coin in an album. On the other hand, having a coin in a slab keeps one from having the pleasure of literally holding that piece of history in your hand. 5. While slabs are not air tight nor hermetically sealed, they do provide a lot more protection against environmental damage over time than raw coins. 6. You can get excellent professional quality photos of your coins. Many slabbed coins already have those photos, and for those that don't it's not too expensive to have that done by the TPG's. 7. When it comes time to sell, by you or your heirs, with raw coins the buyer can try to claim the coin is a lower grade than what you say it is. That argument is so much more difficult when the coin has already been graded by a top TPG. 8. Having the coin in a slab makes it so quick and easy to potentially sell at a fair price. Steve
Edited by Winesteven 06/13/2021 9:59 pm
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