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Found this one in a blue Whitman album, and it looks like it maybe has some goo on it. But I rarely see these so figured I'd post it. Fairly strong spread but just really hard to spot in hand. This is one where you see the thicker devices far easier than the doubling itself. 1969 Lincoln Memorial cent doubled die - DDO-001     |
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I'd imagine you would need to be specifically looking very close to spot this one. I see what you mean about the thicker devices. How rare is this DDO?  |
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Other than one I sold a few years ago, I have never seen one accurately listed for sale. For the thousands of 1969 coins I've looked at, I've found two circulated and a couple in a BU roll. And I am very much looking for exactly this DDO on every one of them. For a lark, I just checked ebay. There are 54 Lincoln cents dated 1969 listed as " DDO". I checked the Philadelphia ones and none are correct, but I suspect among the dozens of D and S coins listed only the AU-53 1969-S DDO-001 (for $22,056) is actually a doubled die. |
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Extremely nice find. ANACS worthy, IMHO. John1  |
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Take your word for it!  |
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Wow, I've never seen one of these posted. No idea what the population is like, but they have to be pretty rare. A very nice Class I doubled die, too. Deserves an FS listing along with many good dies they've neglected, imo. Edit: Apparently Wexler lists this as a Class V DDO? Looks like a Class I to me, but I will certainly take his word for it. Edited by SamCoin
06/01/2021 11:41 am
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http://www.coppercoins.com/lincoln/...ie_state=mdsAlso 1969P-1DO-002. http://www.varietyvista.com/01b%20L...9PDDO001.htm1969 DDO-001. Also 1969 1C WDDO-001: http://doubleddie.com/814702.htmlQuote:
1969 1¢ WDDO-001 "Best Of" Variety
Description: A Class V CW spread from a pivot at about 5:00 shows on the LIB of LIBERTY and on the letters of IGWT.
Die Markers: Obverse: A small die gouge (dot) can be found just under the E of LIBERTY. A short die gouge runs from WNW to ESE below Lincoln's lips. Reverse: A small die gouge protrudes from the rim above the right side of the U in UNITED. A short die gouge can be found to the right of the top of the 2nd Memorial column.
Submitted By: John A. Wexler
Cross References: CONECA: 1-O-V, Crawford: CDDO-001, Coppercoins: 1969P-1DO-002
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Take your word for it! Me too. This exactly why I'm not actively looking for error coins. After seeing all the other coins that are only MD, and not doubled die, what makes this a doubled die vs MD? Can someone explain the difference? And please don't reference that 1955 Doubled die, THAT one is an obvious specimen. |
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Hard to come by to say the least. Well done my friend.
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 Note the spread line on the centers of the devices. Also the devices are showing the enlargement. Hope this helps. The more you look at doubled dies, the more easily your eyes will detect it. Also seeing them side by side helps a lot more. When your eyes go from one place to another, the differences seem to be lost. Not so with side by sides. Also not how the lighting is working for these images. With the light coming from the opposite side of the doubling, it allows the light and shadows to show the spread line a lot easier. Note the shadow on that line. I you use too much light on the wrong side, it reduces the affect. great job on the images TB. Edited by coop
06/01/2021 10:36 am
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Me too. This exactly why I'm not actively looking for error coins. After seeing all the other coins that are only MD, and not doubled die, what makes this a doubled die vs MD?
Can someone explain the difference? And please don't reference that 1955 Doubled die, THAT one is an obvious specimen. The most obvious signs would be the extra thickness on the letters in IGWT (and to a less visible extent in the vertical direction on LIBERTY) and the separation lines visible on the letters. MD would be flat and shelf like, while the separation lines on the devices here show between two distinct sets of raised devices of equal height. Honestly, this one is a pretty major DDO, so I'm kind of surprised by the fact that so many people seem stumped by it. |
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Coppercoins also call this one a class 5. Rotation versus pivot. If it were a rotation issue, most of the devices would be affect. On a pivot, less of the devices would be affected and they would differ less outside the affected area? Wexler mentions: Quote:
Description: A Class V CW spread from a pivot at about 5:00 shows on the LIB of LIBERTY and on the letters of IGWT. Coppercoins mentions: Quote:
A light pivoted spread can be seen in LIB of LIBERTY and IN GOD WE TRUST. A better example might show stronger separation in LIB and IN. Variety Vista mentions: Quote:
1969 DDO-001, 1-O-V-CW from K-5
Description: Light spread on LIB of LIBERTY and IN GOD WE TRUST.
So what do you see on this one? Edited by coop
06/01/2021 11:54 am
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So what do you see on this one? Like I said, I'm sure they are right about it being Class V. The only reason I was surprised is that usually a pivot will cause the two sets of devices to be out of level with each other - you can see this on the 1995 DDO-001, which has a pivot around 4 o'clock, and on which the G in GOD has a split serif on the bottom of the cleft of the G and the top of the curve as a result of one set of devices being oriented "higher" than the other. |
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Well on WE, we can see a slight difference. But different K-numbers could affect different devices, differently.
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@coop my confusion is just that I'm not seeing the difference in vertical alignment on any of the letters here, not just the G, but perhaps it's just too subtle to easily notice.
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06/01/2021 2:10 pm
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