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Can Anyone Fill Me In On This 1952 Lincoln Cent?

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Hi, looks to me like there are several things going on in this coin, is it PMD or an actual error?

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 Posted 06/04/2021  04:37 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add John1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Reverse is MD and it has a nice "spike head" die crack.
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 Posted 06/04/2021  08:04 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ijn1944 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Excellent die crack. Machine Doubling on the reverse. And of course, some wear.
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 Posted 06/04/2021  08:24 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add kanga to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The "feature" is SO linear I would call it a damaged die from a strike-through.
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 Posted 06/04/2021  08:29 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I would call this a die break at this point. Damage is never a variety or an error. A die variety is on the die from the first strike. This die break was not on the coin from the first strike. And damage is not a mint error, it happened after the strike. Machine Doubling is damage that the machine caused after the strike and not regarded as an error. It is a striking event that is common. It is not a die variety, because the die was not the issue, but the strike was. (loose machine) Even a doubled die, can be affected by Machine Doubling.
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 Posted 06/04/2021  08:57 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Die break makes sense, along with evident MD.
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So what the is difference between a die crack and a die break?
Note the die on the left back image. That is a die crack. When more of the metal starts to break off the die, the crack becomes with and eventually enough fall off that it is called a die break. This one is a die break. Note the width and chip on the "E"? That is a die break. It already graduated from die crack school.
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Yall are awesome. Thank you so much. I like it, Its a keeper for me. Is there any added value to it though?
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No, just the education of knowing what it is. Then the next time you see it on another coin, then you can move onto the next coin.
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Looks like SKH-1c-1952-01D on Cud's-on-Coins. http://cuds-on-coins.com/lincoln-ce...s-1950-1959/

Nice find
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Nice die crack! Almost sure I have this exact one in my collection, but unfortunately I'm traveling at the moment and can't check.
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In terms of value, it depends on the collector. There are a niche that collect cracks, breaks, and such. So if listed on ebay, it probably would sell for more than $.05 plus shipping that a normal Wheat penny would. But not for $10's more as these are not very rare. And the coin is in circulated condition.
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The rim is not compromised, so to me, that planchet was struck with a large cracked die with a die chip. That said, if you are going to call this a die break, then for this coin, you have to be specific and call it a retained die break.

When larger elements of the die subsequently fall off, that is where the term "die break" is used. When do die chips become die breaks? I suspect that is when the crack propagates and impacts the edge of the die.

Ken Potter is the man to discuss this at depth, as he owns a number of exonumia dies that have suffered minor to catastrophic failure.
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