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1952-S Doubling On Obverse And Reverse.

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 Posted 06/06/2021  08:44 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add RCarv to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
The obverse is very noticeable, and the reverse I can see some but little harder to tag as doubled..
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06/06/2021 8:16 pm
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 Posted 06/06/2021  09:36 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Not seeing it, but I'll wait for the experts.
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I'm seeing a lot of circulation hits and dings on devices which can look like doubling. Circulation flattening can make devices appear 'fat'. Fat devices are not always doubling.
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 Posted 06/06/2021  11:06 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add RCarv to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
There is alot of dings I agree..
The obverse does show it pretty strong in the date...
I may have a better pic and will upload shortly
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I'm seeing way too many photos.
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 Posted 06/06/2021  1:48 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sheldius to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Under all the damage, I think I see some Mechanical Doubling. Where the edge of the die flattens out the metal because of the press is loose/shakes. Think of it as using your finger or a knife to smear out half of a playdoh letter. You get a flat, low shelf that exactly tracks the devices. Looks like it is in WE and IN most apparently.
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 Posted 06/06/2021  8:01 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add RCarv to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
About to upload some more rn..
Sorry took so long..
Let me know if you think still MD..
Thanks!
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Went crazy with arrows trying to show you all where I saw the splitting of letters.. pretty hard to capture an image with them being flattened so badly..
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WAY too many photos. You lose viewers after the first fifty or so.
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No doubling. All damage. It might help to spend a LOT of time at error-ref.com, doubleddies.com, varietyvista.com etc. studying actual doubled dies to see what a real one would look like. You are looking very close and very hard under high magnification to find something that is not there.
Many people start out this same way until they can learn to ID actual doubling/errors. Spending time studying at those websites will allow you to do save a lot of time posting, picture taking, and also save you a lot of disappointment from hearing over and over your finds are not anything collectable :)
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 Posted 06/08/2021  11:31 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add BigSilver to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
RCarv,
I am writing this to try and be helpful. I hope you read it as it is intended.
It happens very often, especially with new members (who - are often new to collecting as well). This site is a great place to learn and share. Since we don't know you personally, all we have to judge you by is the content that you post here. It seems from that content that you are very eager in this hobby, but, unfortunately lack 2 important things.
1) Knowledge of the minting process and understanding of how things like doubled dies are created. What are die markers? What EDS vs LDS should look like. etc.
2) A willingness to listen and learn. The members of this site have 100's of years of collective experience. If everyone here is telling you something and you will not accept it, then you are not willing to learn. Have we ever been wrong? Of course. But if everyone - on every post you've made is telling you that your coin is not what you are claiming it is, you need to be willing to accept that you are wrong.
Posting on this site is a form of asking others to share their opinion on the posted item. So expect people to do so.
Do you believe that people are ganging up on you and discrediting every thing that you post? Try it out. Go out and buy an attributed variety and post it here. (not sure if it would be against the rules, but you could technically just use pics of an attributed variety) and make the claim without showing the attribution. You will see that every member here will agree with you and congratulate you on your find/buy.
Another note, claiming amnesty on account of bad photos is bad practice. It is bad enough when someone posts bad pics, and excuses themselves for doing so (we've probably all done that at some point), but then to claim that our opinion is not valuable because all we have to judge by are bad pics - well, that just takes the cake.
"Here is a picture of a UFO! with aliens coming out of it! in my backyard!. I know the picture doesn't show it, but they are there. Believe me." There is no point in posting photographs of something that is not shown in the photographs.
Here is a hint, if you are finding that a high percentage of the coins that you view are turning out to be doubled dies, or other notable varieties, that should raise a warning flag to you. (I, of course, don't know how many coins you have searched thru to come up with the many that you have posted, but I feel this advice is worth hearing.) If you were spinning dice and you keep getting double sixes over and over, at some point you would stop and inspect the dice to ensure that all the numbers appear and that they are not weighted. Statistics matter. Most coins are not a rare variety. That is what makes rare varieties rare. Expect to find a good find once in a while.
Lastly, I would like to share my opinion of why we care so much. Misinformation is harmful to this hobby. From ebay listings to youtube videos with misleading or false attributions, people are duped into thinking they have "a gold mine". The "I read it online so it must be true" or "I saw it in a video on youtube so it must be true" is a mentality that is harmful to ALL TRUTH. The more false information that is posted online the more watered down the truth gets.
My advice to you is, learn and listen. Read and understand. In a few months, you will find yourself replying to other new members the very replies that are currently being replied to you.
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